{"id":1957693,"date":"2025-08-13T10:14:12","date_gmt":"2025-08-13T10:14:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=1957693"},"modified":"2025-08-13T10:14:12","modified_gmt":"2025-08-13T10:14:12","slug":"hannah-einbinder-imagines-life-after-hacks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/hannah-einbinder-imagines-life-after-hacks\/","title":{"rendered":"Hannah Einbinder imagines life after &#8216;Hacks&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div data-article-body=\"true\">\n<figure class=\"relative mb-4\">\n<div class=\"relative\"><\/div><figcaption class=\"relative text-sm mt-1 pr-2.5\">\n<p>Hannah Einbinder, Emmy-nominated for the fourth consecutive year for her role as Ava Daniels in &#8220;Hacks.&#8221; <span class=\"copyright\">(Bexx Francois \/ For The Times)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">When casting began in 2020 for the award-winning HBO Max series \u201cHacks,\u201d its three creators \u2014 Paul W. Downs, Lucia Aniello and Jen Statsky \u2014 saw hundreds of actors for the role of Ava Daniels, a 20-something comedy writer who teams up with a Vegas comedian, Deborah Vance (Jean Smart), whose act has grown as dated as her updo and glittery outfits. In choosing Hannah Einbinder, they put a little-known stand-up comic who&#8217;d never before set foot on a TV series shoot on a path to four Emmy nominations. So what did they see then that indicated Einbinder could hold her own with Smart, a storied actress who famously can do anything?<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Downs, who also stars as manager Jimmy LuSaque Jr. on \u201cHacks,\u201d says Einbinder caught the trio\u2019s attention with her audition scene, in which Ava threatens to kill herself after learning that her tweet about a closeted senator and his gay son has rendered her unhirable. \u201cA lot of really funny, really talented actresses read for the part, but their reads were emotional,\u201d he says. \u201cHannah read it in a way that was dry, sardonic, the way that a comedy writer would say it, and she just had this toughness about her.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Ava\u2019s decision to blackmail Deborah into letting her become head writer of her new late-night talk show signaled a power shift in the series, and <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/awards\/story\/2025-05-22\/hacks-max-jean-smart-hannah-einbinder-paul-w-downs\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Season 4, which premiered in April;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">Season 4, which premiered in April<\/a>, is distinctly more Ava-centric. Even as her unsinkable, emotionally complicated boss combats Ava\u2019s efforts to elevate the show at every turn, Ava\u2019s maturation stands out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">With some comedic hurdles, of course. Sitting in a conference room at The Times, Einbinder acknowledges that Season 4 showed the \u201cHacks\u201d writers knew she could take her performance into fresh territory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">\u201cI think there are moments in the series where they gave me new mountains to climb,\u201d she explains, citing Ava&#8217;s epic meltdown after realizing her writing staff has exploited her team-building gestures, a reaction that combines high-decibel shouting with the hurling of a $70 branzino. \u201cTotally enraged is not a place that I\u2019ve ever gone before as an actor.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Back on Day 1 of her &#8220;Hacks&#8221; journey, Einbinder arrived on set knowing so little about making a TV show that her go-to source for the ins and outs of hitting a mark was<b>\u00a0<\/b>Michael Caine\u2019s legendary how-to handbook, \u201cActing in Film.\u201d Downs attributes her rapid growth since to a combination of hard work and raw talent. \u201cSome people just have a natural-born ability to make dialogue that&#8217;s written seem like it&#8217;s said for the first time and they are just living that moment,\u201d he says, adding, \u201cShe\u2019s someone who prepares so much. I\u2019ve seen her scripts, filled with notes. She\u2019s always working on lines, thinking about the character.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">A case can be made that Einbinder\u2019s showbiz education began at a young age, with a mom \u2014 Laraine Newman, an original \u201cSaturday Night Live\u201d cast member \u2014 who liked listening to comedy while driving and who brought along her pale-skinned, redheaded little daughter to voice-over auditions. But Einbinder also believes her years as a competitive cheerleader \u2014 she held the gravity-defying position of point flyer, the one being tossed around or hoisted in the air \u2014 gave her the tools to finesse her transition to \u201cHacks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">\u201cIt\u2019s so rooted in misogyny, the way cheerleading is viewed in our culture,\u201d she says before ticking off comparisons between the two professions. \u201cThere\u2019s the showmanship. The performance aspect is really similar. Working with an ensemble, working with your team. Taking direction from your coach. My cheerleading background was very strict and created a lot of maybe unhealthy patterns that have led me to success, for better or for worse.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"relative mb-4\">\n<div class=\"relative\"><img alt=\"Hannah Einbinder in a white dress with fringe.\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"960\" height=\"1320\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" class=\"rounded-lg\" style=\"color:transparent\" src=\"https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/ny\/api\/res\/1.2\/XId8a5HbtNa2c8Dc.OYbcw--\/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTEzMjA7Y2Y9d2VicA--\/https:\/\/media.zenfs.com\/en\/la_times_articles_853\/3733c52e9b6c0a91daf5cbab321c0ffa\"\/><button aria-label=\"View larger image\" class=\"group absolute bottom-3 right-3 size-10 md:size-[50px] lg:inset-0 lg:size-full lg:bg-transparent\" data-ylk=\"elm:expand;itc:1;sec:image-lightbox;slk:lightbox-open;\"><span class=\"absolute bottom-0 right-0 rounded-full bg-white p-3 opacity-100 shadow-elevation-3 transition-opacity duration-300 group-hover:block group-hover:opacity-100 md:p-[17px] lg:bottom-6 lg:right-6 lg:bg-white\/90 lg:p-5 lg:opacity-0 lg:shadow-none\"><svg viewbox=\"0 0 22 22\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"size-4 lg:size-6\" width=\"22\" height=\"22\"><path d=\"M12.372.92c0-.506.41-.916.915-.916L21 0l-.004 7.712a.917.917 0 0 1-1.832 0V3.183l-6.827 6.828-1.349-1.348 6.828-6.828h-4.529a.915.915 0 0 1-.915-.915M1.835 17.816l6.828-6.828 1.349 1.349-6.829 6.827h4.529a.915.915 0 0 1 0 1.831L0 21l.004-7.713a.916.916 0 0 1 1.831 0z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/button><dialog aria-label=\"Modal Dialog\" aria-modal=\"true\" class=\"fixed inset-0 z-4 size-full max-h-none max-w-none bg-white hidden\"\/><\/div><figcaption class=\"relative text-sm mt-1 pr-2.5\">\n<p>&#8220;I grew up with these people,&#8221; Einbinder says of the prospect of &#8220;Hacks&#8221; ending. &#8220;We are in each other&#8217;s lives in a real way. So, yeah, it&#8217;s emotional.&#8221; <span class=\"copyright\">(Bexx Francois \/ For The Times)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Mark Indelicato, who plays Deborah\u2019s assistant on \u201cHacks\u201d and bonded with Einbinder on the first day of shooting, remembers watching her learn on the fly. \u201cShe\u2019s like a sponge,\u201d he says, adding that she also can be her own harshest critic. \u201cShe\u2019s so competitive with herself. Sometimes I&#8217;ll just be like, \u2018Han, I&#8217;m exhausted talking to you right now.\u2019 She pulls herself in a million different directions and doesn&#8217;t look up, just goes, goes, goes, goes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Back in her post-high school days, she went through a different sort of phase. Having cast cheerleading aside, she channeled her energies SoCal slacker-style.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">\u201cThat\u2019d be smoking pot and racing my Honda Element around Los Angeles,\u201d she says. \u201cI was really focused on that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">But in 2017, her senior year as a broadcast major at Chapman University, she volunteered to be a warmup act for comedian Nicole Byer. For some reason, Einbinder decided her material didn\u2019t need much road testing. \u201cI did, like, maybe three open mics,\u201d says Einbinder. Though she admits to some pre-debut jitters, by the time she&#8217;d left Byer&#8217;s stagesomething had clicked. \u201cIn certain ways, this was dopamine-driven. I\u2019m an adrenaline seeker. I just have always liked the feeling of flying.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">After that, it was all stand-up, touring the country as an opener for high-profile comics like Chelsea Handler and Dana Gould. Then, in early 2020, she became the youngest comic ever to appear on <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/awards\/story\/2025-07-30\/stephen-colbert-late-show-cancellation-emmys-cbs\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:\u201cThe Late Show With Stephen Colbert.\u201d;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">\u201cThe Late Show With Stephen Colbert.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">It\u2019s not lost on Einbinder that her tight, idiosyncratic set became her industry calling card. \u201cThe experience was so transformative for me, and I\u2019m grateful for that,\u201d she says. \u201cWhen I auditioned for \u2018Hacks,\u2019 it was the only thing they could see online. I didn\u2019t have any previous acting jobs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">So what\u2019s her take on CBS\u2019 decision to end the late-night series amid a highly politicized corporate<b>\u00a0<\/b>merger? \u201cI\u2019m going to choose my words wisely here,\u201d she says, pursing her lips. \u201cThe type of comedy that late-night hosts do reflects a pretty moderate centrist Democrat position, so it scares me that, like, the middle-of-the-road Dem white guys are being silenced and what that means for people who are really actually speaking truth to power.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Despite this bout of caution, Einbinder can also be an open book. In high school she was diagnosed with ADHD and prescribed a heavy dose of Adderall, and as a result, she says, she doesn\u2019t have much access to those years. \u201cMy best friend Phoebe will be, like, &#8216;Remember when you did that crazy thing?\u2019 And I\u2019m like, \u2018Absolutely not. I sound awesome in that story. I\u2019ll take your word for it.&#8217;\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"relative mb-4\">\n<div class=\"relative\"><img alt=\"Hannah Einbinder\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"960\" height=\"1440\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" class=\"rounded-lg\" style=\"color:transparent\" src=\"https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/ny\/api\/res\/1.2\/H0u3n.h.ITXCm27M8dpDDg--\/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTE0NDA7Y2Y9d2VicA--\/https:\/\/media.zenfs.com\/en\/la_times_articles_853\/f5dcb271fc556f50b9164a915e422cf6\"\/><button aria-label=\"View larger image\" class=\"group absolute bottom-3 right-3 size-10 md:size-[50px] lg:inset-0 lg:size-full lg:bg-transparent\" data-ylk=\"elm:expand;itc:1;sec:image-lightbox;slk:lightbox-open;\"><span class=\"absolute bottom-0 right-0 rounded-full bg-white p-3 opacity-100 shadow-elevation-3 transition-opacity duration-300 group-hover:block group-hover:opacity-100 md:p-[17px] lg:bottom-6 lg:right-6 lg:bg-white\/90 lg:p-5 lg:opacity-0 lg:shadow-none\"><svg viewbox=\"0 0 22 22\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"size-4 lg:size-6\" width=\"22\" height=\"22\"><path d=\"M12.372.92c0-.506.41-.916.915-.916L21 0l-.004 7.712a.917.917 0 0 1-1.832 0V3.183l-6.827 6.828-1.349-1.348 6.828-6.828h-4.529a.915.915 0 0 1-.915-.915M1.835 17.816l6.828-6.828 1.349 1.349-6.829 6.827h4.529a.915.915 0 0 1 0 1.831L0 21l.004-7.713a.916.916 0 0 1 1.831 0z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/button><dialog aria-label=\"Modal Dialog\" aria-modal=\"true\" class=\"fixed inset-0 z-4 size-full max-h-none max-w-none bg-white hidden\"\/><\/div><figcaption class=\"relative text-sm mt-1 pr-2.5\">\n<p> <span class=\"copyright\">(Bexx Francois \/ For The Times)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">When asked about the first live comedy show she ever attended, she says, \u201cBill Maher, which I am kind of humiliated to admit. Sorry, Bill.\u201d A pause. \u201cNot really.\u201d Then she leans over my digital recorder and gives a quick, wet Bronx cheer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Her 2024 stand-up comedy special for HBO Max, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/tv\/story\/2024-06-07\/hannah-einbinder-everything-must-go-hacks\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:\u201cEverything Must Go,\u201d;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">\u201cEverything Must Go,\u201d<\/a> is wall-to-wall personal anecdotes, some of them embarrassing. But something else in that hour convinced transfeminine writer-director and indie force Jane Schoenbrun (\u201cI Saw the TV Glow\u201d) to cast Einbinder in their upcoming film, &#8220;Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.\u201d<b>\u00a0<\/b> \u201cIt was almost like she was dancing with the camera,\u201d says Schoenbrun. \u201cI love \u2018Hacks\u2019 and think Hannah displays incredible acting chops, but it\u2019s a sitcom, and I\u2019m making something more of an art film. And I found her deranged physicality exciting.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">In \u201cMiasma,\u201d Einbinder, who is bisexual, plays a queer director who, after being hired to direct the latest installment of a slasher franchise, travels to a remote cabin to meet with an original cast member (Gillian Anderson) and falls into what Schoenbrun has described as \u201ca frenzy of psychosexual mania.\u201d Considering that Einbinder chose \u201cMiasma\u201d as the first big step she\u2019s taken outside of \u201cHacks,\u201d it seems like an indicator of the sort of career she is hoping to build.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">\u201cComedy feels really good,\u201d she says. \u201cBut I also want to make sure that the projects I join are emotionally fulfilling. Jane is someone I feel so aligned with, and the work that Jane makes is so deeply personal and queer. It\u2019s just exactly the type of thing I wanted to do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">\u201cI\u2019m on another movie right now \u2014 it\u2019s a really cool comedy,\u201d Einbinder says of an ensemble film that\u2019s yet to be announced. Then, next month, she\u2019s expected back at \u201cHacks.\u201d Even when its three creators were pitching the series, the plan was to end after five seasons. So mapping out her future path isn\u2019t just whimsy. (The series has been renewed for a fifth season, and while there\u2019s no official word on an end yet, many viewers have speculated that Season 5 will indeed be its last.) When she\u2019s asked to imagine her life after \u201cHacks,\u201d Einbinder\u2019s face suddenly turns pink, a folded tissue appears, and she\u2019s dabbing away tears. \u201cI grew up with these people,\u201d she says in a strangled voice. \u201cWe are in each other\u2019s lives in a real way. So, yeah, it\u2019s emotional.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Einbinder says she feels connected to the characters and their stories \u201cthe way fans do.\u201d So what does she hope happens to Ava before \u201cHacks\u201d concludes? The tissue drops and Einbinder\u2019s sense of humor returns.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">\u201cI think she should cure her acne and grow her hair out,\u201d she says. \u201cThat would be meaningful for her.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"relative mb-4\">\n<div class=\"relative\"><img alt=\"The Envelope magazine cover with Hannah Einbinder\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"960\" height=\"1177\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" class=\"rounded-lg\" style=\"color:transparent\" src=\"https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/ny\/api\/res\/1.2\/mq.2X_L6sr07Ez0xwHfZbA--\/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTExNzc7Y2Y9d2VicA--\/https:\/\/media.zenfs.com\/en\/la_times_articles_853\/d9bdb89c12b6b128769371a4671562ee\"\/><button aria-label=\"View larger image\" class=\"group absolute bottom-3 right-3 size-10 md:size-[50px] lg:inset-0 lg:size-full lg:bg-transparent\" data-ylk=\"elm:expand;itc:1;sec:image-lightbox;slk:lightbox-open;\"><span class=\"absolute bottom-0 right-0 rounded-full bg-white p-3 opacity-100 shadow-elevation-3 transition-opacity duration-300 group-hover:block group-hover:opacity-100 md:p-[17px] lg:bottom-6 lg:right-6 lg:bg-white\/90 lg:p-5 lg:opacity-0 lg:shadow-none\"><svg viewbox=\"0 0 22 22\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"size-4 lg:size-6\" width=\"22\" height=\"22\"><path d=\"M12.372.92c0-.506.41-.916.915-.916L21 0l-.004 7.712a.917.917 0 0 1-1.832 0V3.183l-6.827 6.828-1.349-1.348 6.828-6.828h-4.529a.915.915 0 0 1-.915-.915M1.835 17.816l6.828-6.828 1.349 1.349-6.829 6.827h4.529a.915.915 0 0 1 0 1.831L0 21l.004-7.713a.916.916 0 0 1 1.831 0z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/button><dialog aria-label=\"Modal Dialog\" aria-modal=\"true\" class=\"fixed inset-0 z-4 size-full max-h-none max-w-none bg-white hidden\"\/><\/div><figcaption class=\"relative text-sm mt-1 pr-2.5\">\n<p> <span class=\"copyright\">(Bexx Francois \/ For The Times)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/newsletters\/the-envelope?utm_source=yahoo&amp;utm_medium=newsletter_module&amp;utm_campaign=envelope-new\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Get exclusive awards season news, in-depth interviews and columnist Glenn Whipp\u2019s must-read analysis straight to your inbox.;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">Get exclusive awards season news, in-depth interviews and columnist Glenn Whipp\u2019s must-read analysis straight to your inbox.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">This story originally appeared in <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/awards\/story\/2025-08-13\/hannah-einbinder-hacks-season-4-season-5\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Los Angeles Times;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">Los Angeles Times<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.yahoo.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hannah Einbinder, Emmy-nominated for the fourth consecutive year for her role as Ava Daniels in &#8220;Hacks.&#8221; (Bexx Francois \/ For The Times) When casting began in 2020 for the award-winning HBO Max series \u201cHacks,\u201d its three creators \u2014 Paul W. 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