{"id":1977651,"date":"2025-08-24T18:42:01","date_gmt":"2025-08-24T18:42:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=1977651"},"modified":"2025-08-24T18:42:01","modified_gmt":"2025-08-24T18:42:01","slug":"its-every-little-piece-of-what-a-breakup-feels-like","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/its-every-little-piece-of-what-a-breakup-feels-like\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cIt\u2019s every little piece of what a breakup feels like\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/conan-gray\">Conan Gray<\/a> told <em>NME<\/em> about his new album \u2018Wishbone\u2019 backstage at <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/festivals\/reading-and-leeds-festival\">Reading 2025<\/a>, saying it dissects \u201cevery little piece of what a breakup feels like\u201d. Check out the video interview in full above or read our chat below.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Wishbone\u2019, Gray\u2019s fourth album, was released earlier this month and follows his 2024 record <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/reviews\/album\/conan-gray-heaven-review-lyrics-tracklist-3613286\">\u2018Found Heaven\u2019<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s my baby, I\u2019m obsessed with it. I\u2019m so proud of it,\u201d he told <em>NME<\/em> backstage at Reading after his huge main stage set. \u201cIt\u2019s an album about breakups and about every little piece that you go through when you\u2019re going through a breakup. It\u2019s denial and wanting someone back, and anger and then missing someone, and then empathy, but also, like, \u2018Fuck you\u2019. It\u2019s a dissection of every little piece of what a breakup feels like.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Gray explained that, musically, the album was inspired by the records he grew up listening to. \u201cI think all the influences came together to make a very indescript sound, which is very me. My goal with the album from the beginning was to just make something so unbelievably you, even if you don\u2019t really know exactly what that is. Just follow your gut.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Asked if he felt that \u2018Wishbone\u2019 is the \u201cmost you\u201d album he\u2019s released so far, he replied: \u201c100 per cent, and I feel like the listeners would agree.\u201d Read our full chat with Conan Gray below.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_3886931\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3886931\" style=\"width: 2000px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3886931\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Conan Gray performs at Reading 2025. Credit: Andy Ford for NME<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong>NME. Hello Conan. It\u2019s your first time at Reading \u2013 you just played on the main stage. How did it go?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Conan Gray:<\/strong> \u201cIt was a lot of fun. It was really exciting to sing new songs from my album. I\u2019m always like, \u2018Oh my god, what if they don\u2019t know the words yet?\u2019 It\u2019s only been a week since it\u2019s come out, but they knew the words! I felt very loved.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>A great crowd reaction! Was there one particular song that you were really nervous about that went down really well?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI really liked people singing along to \u2018Nauseous\u2019. It\u2019s one of my favourites on the album, and I feel like it was good to know that real human beings actually hear the song.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why is that one of your favourites?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just like how plain it is. It\u2019s very much just like, \u2018You scared the shit out of me\u2019, and then that\u2019s it. Sometimes you just need to be like, \u2018You know what? You\u2019re so wonderful and loving that you scare the shit out of me, bye!\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Relatable. You\u2019ve had a big summer so far \u2013 including two festival moments a lot of people would kill for. You were the \u2018Apple\u2019 girl for <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/charli-xcx\">Charli XCX<\/a> and you were also Sally for <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/role-model\">Role Model<\/a>. You begged Charli to let you be the \u2018Apple\u2019 girl, but how did you get to be Sally?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve known Tucker [Pillsbury aka Role Model] forever, like maybe six or seven years? So I\u2019d been to a show in LA the week before, and I told him at the show, \u2018I\u2019m gonna be Sally for Gov Ball. We have to make this happen.\u2019 So then we made a fun little plan.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"jeg_video_container jeg_video_content\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Conan Gray as Sally #govball #conangray #rolemodel\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XqcMpXR15NA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><strong>How was it being Sally?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo fun and also it\u2019s just a fucking banger. We were singing \u2018Sally[, When The Wine Runs Out]\u2019 the whole summer after. That moment started me and my friends\u2019 summer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>You reunited with producer Dan Nigro for a few songs on this album. What\u2019s so special about your creative relationship and what you make together?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, he\u2019s very me because we\u2019ve been making music together since the beginning of me ever making music with my first EP, \u2018Sunset Season\u2019. It\u2019s been eight years with Dan, and I don\u2019t know, we really grew up together in a huge way, and our relationship is really mature at this point.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe very much told me at the beginning of working on the album, \u2018We\u2019ve made plenty of albums together now. How about with this one, you just follow your gut and write everything yourself? Just do it \u2013 just go and write.\u2019 He gave me permission, like, \u2018Hey, don\u2019t even bother with the co-writing, don\u2019t even bother with the sessions \u2013 just go write in your bedroom. That\u2019s what you do best. So just go do it.\u2019 And that\u2019s what I did.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Does it feel like going home when you\u2019re working with him again after working with other producers?<\/p>\n<p>\u201c100 per cent. He is the person who taught me how to even record music or what producing music even feels like. And we still make music in his garage, and it\u2019s always been like that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/reading-leeds-festival-2025\">Check back at\u00a0<em>NME<\/em>\u00a0here<\/a>\u00a0for all the latest news, reviews, interviews, photos and more Reading &amp; Leeds 2025.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n  !function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s)\n  {if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?\n  n.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};\n  if(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';\n  n.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;\n  t.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];\n  s.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window, document,'script',\n  'https:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/fbevents.js');\n  fbq('consent', 'revoke');\n  fbq('init', '370979561341328');\n  fbq('track', 'PageView');\n<\/script><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.nme.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Conan Gray told NME about his new album \u2018Wishbone\u2019 backstage at Reading 2025, saying it dissects \u201cevery little piece of what a breakup feels like\u201d. 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