{"id":2037748,"date":"2025-09-20T20:58:06","date_gmt":"2025-09-20T20:58:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2037748"},"modified":"2025-09-20T20:58:06","modified_gmt":"2025-09-20T20:58:06","slug":"this-is-what-i-live-for","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/this-is-what-i-live-for\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018This is what I live for.\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<header class=\"m-article-header m-article-header--standard\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span id=\"article-header-primary-term\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"a-term a-term--primary\" href=\"https:\/\/www.boston.com\/tag\/entertainment\/\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tEntertainment\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"m-article-header__sub-headline\">On opening weekend for \u201cThe History of Sound,\u201d Kingston\u2019s Chris Cooper talks about choosing roles and his path from shy ranch hand to Oscar winner.<\/h2>\n<figure class=\"a-photo m-article-header__photo \">\n<figcaption class=\"a-photo__caption\">\n\tChris Cooper stands by the poster for his latest film, &#8220;History of Sound.&#8221;<em> Courtesy<\/em>\t<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"m-article-header__meta\">\n<div class=\"m-article-header__byline\">\n<p class=\"m-article-header__author\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tBy <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"a-link a-link--inline\" href=\"https:\/\/www.boston.com\/author\/lauren-daley\/\">Lauren Daley<\/a>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<time class=\"m-article-header__date\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSeptember 20, 2025 | 10:36 AM\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/time><\/p>\n<p><span>9 minutes to read<\/span><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div><\/div>\n<\/header>\n<p>Chris Cooper tells me he has a \u201chistory of being selective\u201d when it comes to choosing roles.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cVery selective,\u201d he adds with a laugh in our recent phone interview from his Kingston home, making his wife, writer\/actor Marianne Leone, laugh in the background.<\/p>\n<p>From Tom Smith, the horse trainer in \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0329575\/\">Seabiscuit<\/a>,\u201d to Stephen MacRay, Ben Affleck\u2019s jailed dad in \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0840361\/\">The Town<\/a>,\u201d or, my favorite, the partially-toothless orchid-loving eccentric John Laroche in \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0268126\/\">Adaptation<\/a>\u201d \u2014 there are certain roles that just <em>feel <\/em>like Cooper roles.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>A character actor\u2019s character actor, roles like these \u2014 from quiet complex thinkers to dyed-in-the-wool oddballs \u2014 are the Oscar winner\u2019s bread and butter.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I love Cooper\u2019s acting for the same reason I love John Prine\u2019s songwriting. He steps into people. Has an uncanny knack to tap into an artery, some motherlode vein, to bring characters intricately, deftly, to life in all their human quirkiness and vulnerability \u2014 unaffected salt-of-the-earth artists who hit the emotional nail on the head with few gestures.<\/p>\n<p>So I can see where director <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm3564996\/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1\">Oliver Hermanus <\/a>was coming from when he read South Dartmouth artist\/author\/<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bostonglobe.com\/2021\/08\/22\/business\/general-store-all-about-details\/\">general store owner<\/a> Ben Shattuck\u2019s \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/703118\/the-history-of-sound-by-ben-shattuck\/\">The History of Sound,<\/a>\u201d and thought: Cooper.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDidn\u2019t have to ask twice,\u201d <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0177933\/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1\">Cooper<\/a>, 74, tells me. \u201cI jumped at the chance. This is my kind of story. This is the kind of thing that got me interested in film in the first place. This is what I live for.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a smaller part, but if you\u2019ve read the story, you know why Cooper couldn\u2019t turn it down.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The titular story in Shattuck\u2019s brilliant short collection, \u201cis singular, subtly tender, ripe for Cooper. <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bostonglobe.com\/2022\/04\/13\/arts\/six-walks-ben-shattuck-retraces-thoreaus-wanderings\/\">Shattuck<\/a>, husband of Milton native Jenny Slate, also wrote the screenplay.<\/p>\n<p>Set in New England circa World War I, two Boston Conservatory music students, Lionel and David, fall in love, and spend one summer together recording and preserving old folk tunes, ostensibly collecting the history of sound on phonograph tubes. Cooper plays the older Lionel;<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm8958770\/?ref_=tt_cst_t_1\"> Paul Mescal<\/a> plays the younger Lionel.<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm4853066\/?ref_=tt_cst_t_2\"> Josh O\u2019Connor<\/a> plays David.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\n<div class=\"jeg_video_container jeg_video_content\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"THE HISTORY OF SOUND | Official Trailer\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2-XrujTDU9s?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>The story is told from the older Lionel\u2019s point of view, as an 85-year-old man in Cambridge, looking back. Older Lionel has much less of an on-screen presence \u2014 but the amount of screen-time doesn\u2019t matter to Cooper when considering a role.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cChris has never been somebody who\u2019s like, \u2018This is too small a part for me,\u2019\u201d Leone, 73, told me recently. \u201cI remember when he did \u2018The Town.\u2019 It was one scene. Ben Affleck was on some late night show saying, \u2018I was nervous to ask him.\u2019 I thought: \u2018You had him at prison, dude.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"2560\" src=\"https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34021544\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg?width=200 200w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg?width=300 300w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg?width=400 400w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg?width=500 500w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg?width=600 600w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg?width=700 700w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg?width=800 800w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3956-68ceb8cfd6300-scaled.jpeg?width=900 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Actor\/author Marianne Leone and her husband Chris Cooper pose near a poster of his latest film.<em> Courtesy<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>When<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bostonglobe.com\/2024\/09\/18\/arts\/marianne-leones-latest-is-memoir-loss-grief-joy\/\"> I previously interviewed<\/a> Cooper\u2019s wife, actor\/author <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/marianneleonecooper.com\/about\/\">Marianne Leone<\/a> \u2014 she played Christopher\u2019s mother in \u201cThe Sopranos\u201d \u2014 she told me something that stuck in my head as the ultimate Cooper anecdote.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI remember when he was doing \u2018Adaptation,\u2019 he\u2019d be wearing those teeth around the house,\u201d she said, referring to the missing-teeth prothetic he wore in the film. \u201cWhen he\u2019s immersed in a character, the real Chris recedes a bit. He\u2019s dogged about studying. He\u2019s a much harder worker than I am. He loves the research as much as he loves the performance.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>That Spike Jonze-directed film, written by Charlie Kaufman, was released when I was a sophomore in college. I was mindblown. It\u2019s still a favorite. When I think of Cooper, I still think of that scene when he\u2019s <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mdYIqSZblv0\">driving the pick-up truck<\/a>: \u201cMom and I had the largest collection of 19th-century Dutch mirrors on the planet. Perhaps you read about us? <em>Mirror World<\/em>, October \u201988?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>You can fake a lot of things in life, but you can\u2019t fake soul. People can smell it on you \u2014 an innate thing. Cooper and Leone got soul. You feel it as soon as they start talking.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Horror and \u201cdumb comedy\u201d scripts are passed over in this South Shore house, Leone has told me. (\u201cThere\u2019s a reason we live in a raised ranch and drive used cars: so we can do whatever we want.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>The couple moved to Kingston in \u201994, for their son Jesse\u2019s education. Jesse, who died in 2005 at age 17, had cerebral palsy. He was nonverbal, quadriplegic, and a gifted poet. Leone wrote about their son\u2019s life and death beautifully in books, including<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bostonglobe.com\/2024\/09\/18\/arts\/marianne-leones-latest-is-memoir-loss-grief-joy\/\"> 2024\u2019s \u201cFive-Dog Epiphany.\u201d\u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1059\" height=\"740\" src=\"https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34021549\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg?width=200 200w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg?width=300 300w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg?width=400 400w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg?width=500 500w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg?width=600 600w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg?width=700 700w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg?width=800 800w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/F0796DCB-F7F8-426E-897F-E5E85827615DIMG_0024-68ceb91e4ff71.jpeg?width=900 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1059px) 100vw, 1059px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This family photo shows Chris Cooper, his wife Marianne Leone and their son Jesse.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re infantilized in this business,\u201d Cooper tells me. \u201cYou\u2019re treated like queens and kings, and people can [laughs] kind of take that seriously. But Jesse was our anchor. Jesse was a wise young man, and he showed us what was important in life. He was a great teacher.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As Leone once told me, \u201cI don\u2019t think he<em> loves <\/em>the business part of acting. The year he won the Oscar [for \u201cAdaptation\u201d], his hair had been dyed white and shaved back for \u2018Seabiscuit,\u2019 so nobody recognized him on the red carpet. He was in heaven.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m calling their home ahead of the opening weekend for \u201cThe History of Sound,\u201d which debuted at Cannes in May. Cooper attended a film screening in Plymouth on opening night, Sept. 19, and answered audience questions afterwards. The film is in select theaters now.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Leone just released<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/marianneleonecooper.com\/books\/christina-the-astonishing\/\"> \u201cChristina the Astonishing,<\/a>\u201d a hilarious Boston-set K\u00fcnstlerroman, with laugh-aloud dialogue. Cooper and Leone read from the novel, partly drawn from Leone\u2019s coming-of-age in Newton, in a<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/marianneleonecooper.com\/events\/\"> string of upcoming events<\/a>, including Sept. 24 at <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/earfull.org\/shows\">Earfull <\/a>at the Regattabar in the Charles Hotel; and Sept. 25 at Booklove in Plymouth.<\/p>\n<p>Before we hung up, Cooper, ever the researcher, told me: \u201cWe\u2019re getting ready for events this week. I gotta go brush up on my reading.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1250\" height=\"2000\" src=\"https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34021564\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg?width=200 200w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg?width=300 300w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg?width=400 400w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg?width=500 500w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg?width=600 600w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg?width=700 700w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg?width=800 800w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/9781636142623-68ceb9c8a65b3.jpg?width=900 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1250px) 100vw, 1250px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Marianne Leone\u2019s latest novel is a Boston-set story with \u201claugh-out-loud\u201d dialogue.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>While I called, ostensibly, to talk to Cooper about his acting, it feels right to add Leone\u2019s voice here. You can\u2019t truly get at the heart of one without mentioning the other. They\u2019re two trees that have grown around each other, their stories intertwine too much. (\u201cI think we\u2019re the random-access memory for each other,\u201d Leone sums up.)<\/p>\n<p>That said, here\u2019s more of my conversation with Cooper \u2014 with Leone chiming in where noted.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>So what drew you to the part of Lionel?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh, my God. I\u2014 are you familiar with Ben Shattuck\u2019s writings?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yes, and I loved that collection<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>And that\u2019s it. Jaime Clark and Mary Cotton, who run Newtonville Books, brought Ben and his wife, Jenny Slate, together with Marianne and I. We shared a lunch. I absolutely <em>love<\/em> his writing. It\u2019s just comfortable, comfortable reading. He\u2019s like a writer from another time.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Then we hear \u201cHistory of Sound\u201d is going to be a film. Ben wrote the script as well, which is very unusual. He did a beautiful job. It\u2019s truly an art film. It takes its time beautifully. And I just want to preface that I <em>don\u2019t<\/em> feel it was indulgent. The scene-work really takes its time. I open it with a narration, observations of the old Lionel. Then I have about 10 minutes at the end.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I can see why they reached out to you. It feels like a Chris Cooper-type of role. What draws you to a role?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well, it\u2019s<em> real<\/em> simple. I was brought up on film work from the \u201850s, \u201860s, \u201870s \u2014 that involves person-to-person, dealing with another actor. Although I\u2019ve been talked into doing some pieces I\u2019m not thrilled with \u2014 superheroes and all that. I\u2019m not into explosions and car chases. I dare say, I\u2019m a little serious-minded about my choices.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><em>[Marianne from the background]: <\/em>You do like comedy.<\/p>\n<p>Hmm, yeah, OK. Marianne\u2019s prefacing that I do like comedy, but certainly, I tend to be cast in other roles.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I loved you as <\/strong><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/m.media-amazon.com\/images\/M\/MV5BMjA3NzU1MTYxMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDEzNTc2._V1_.jpg\"><strong>John Laroche in \u201cAdaptation.<\/strong><\/a><strong>\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>And that\u2019s curious, because, as Marianne mentioned: comedy. That was a slightly comedic role. Those scripts don\u2019t come my way too often.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You mentioned traveling to flower shows to study for \u201cAdaptation.\u201d It sounds like you put in a<\/strong><strong><em> ton <\/em><\/strong><strong>of time into research.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think of it more as a security blanket. I surround myself with the history of this guy, and makes me feel like I know something. Some roles are closer to myself than others.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Like the horse trainer in \u201cSeabiscuit.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a situation where I brought life experience. I did ranching in the \u201860s and \u201870s. We lived in Kansas City, Missouri, but my dad had a cattle ranch over in Kansas. <em>All <\/em>that stuff involving farming and ranching was <em>very <\/em>helpful. It\u2019s in my blood.<\/p>\n<p><strong>As a kid, you wanted to be a singer.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh, man, yeah. I was <em>crazy <\/em>about the crooners \u2014 Johnny Mathis, Sinatra, Tony Bennet. My sixth-grade teacher, Ms. Sheffield, recognized my shyness. She pulled something out of me, got me to the stage singing. With an audience\u2019s applause, I found: \u201cHey, I really like this.\u201d Then I found I had this great desire for acting. At the University of Missouri, I got serious and started auditioning for plays.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In \u201974, I moved to New York, got into an acting class with a wonderful teacher, Marianne was a student. We got assigned a scene together: Eugene O\u2019Neill, \u201cMourning Becomes Electra.\u201d The rest is history.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><em>Marianne laughs in the background:<\/em> Well, our history.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You also did carpentry work.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I had a hip-high toolbox on wheels; I\u2019d take the subway. Word spread on the Upper East Side, where the wealthy apartment owners were. In New York, if you hire somebody, they\u2019ll spend half a day, be gone three days, come back whenever. I <em>dedicated <\/em>one job at a time from beginning to end. And my name spread like <em>wildfire<\/em>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>[laughs] I love it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Marianne<\/em>:\u00a0 Let me hop on for a second. Lauren, I knew he\u2019d forget to tell you this. I quit my horrible temp job to be his helper. I once overheard Chris saying, \u201cWhen I saw Marianne carrying sheetrock up eight flights of stairs, I just knew: that was the girl for me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>[laughs] Classic. So you two eventually married and moved to Massachusetts for Jesse.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When Marianne became pregnant, we moved to New Jersey to find a street-level apartment. When Jesse was 6, New Jersey made it kind of clear they didn\u2019t want to deal with Jesse. They didn\u2019t have inclusion. Thank God, Marianne, having grown up in Massachusetts, was familiar with what was available here. Massachusetts was <em>ages<\/em> ahead of Jersey as far as inclusion. We moved here in \u201994, had a couple of hurdles. Then Jesse flourished. He was an honor student \u2014 a smart, smart boy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did Jesse help you in your art, in terms of taking roles or looking at fatherhood?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh, man. [pause] He was of huge import, and I won\u2019t get too personal about what I drew from, but he [<em>long pause, clears throat]<\/em> was an important part of my development as an actor. He fed me in some roles. I don\u2019t want to be too specific.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In more general terms, what was it like moving to Massachusetts?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh, man. Originally, I kind of freaked out.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"2479\" src=\"https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-34021565\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg?width=200 200w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg?width=300 300w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg?width=400 400w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg?width=500 500w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg?width=600 600w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg?width=700 700w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg?width=800 800w, https:\/\/bdc2020.o0bc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/IMG_3957-68cebb98cd8f6-scaled.jpeg?width=900 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Chris Cooper speaks at the \u201cHistory of Sound\u201d premiere in Plymouth at\u00a0Plimoth Patuxet Museums. <em>Courtesy<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>[laughs]\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I thought, \u201cI gotta be close to the business.\u201d Oddly enough, as soon as we moved here, my career took off exponentially. Now I love it. I\u2019m<em> thrilled<\/em> with living in Massachusetts. Marianne is close to her family, which I adore. It\u2019s a really young, smart state.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You\u2019ve been in some Boston movies, \u201cThe Town,\u201d \u201cThe Boston Strangler,\u201d \u201cCompany Men.\u201d What drew you to \u201cThe Town\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I only do one scene, but it\u2019s wonderful writing. I think that was the first time I worked with Ben Affleck. For research, I went to Walpole Prison and spent about five hours with prisoners. Then I went up this spiral staircase to just observe. I spent about 20 minutes looking at these boys, thinking, \u201cMy God. How long have they been there? How long will they be there?\u201d It shook me up. It was <em>really<\/em> powerful.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Boston accent is so hard for outsiders to get right\u2014 but you really nailed it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ben provided me with three different guys, who had done time, all had a distinct accent. I chose one that worked for me. People talk about \u201cOh the Boston accent, everybody gets it wrong.\u201d But I think it worked out. Having lived here since \u201994, I\u2019ve absorbed it. I talk to my brother on the phone, and he\u2019s like, \u201cYou don\u2019t sound like a Missouri boy anymore.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>[laughs] You mentioned being \u201cserious-minded\u201d in selecting roles. How did you end up in \u201cThe Muppets\u201d (2009)?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That took some coaxing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>[laughs]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My agent said, \u201cDamn it, you are <em>going t<\/em>o do this.\u201d Marianne and I, we c<em>ompletely<\/em> missed the Muppets. I didn\u2019t know how popular it was. 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