{"id":2090028,"date":"2025-10-14T11:15:20","date_gmt":"2025-10-14T11:15:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2090028"},"modified":"2025-10-14T11:15:20","modified_gmt":"2025-10-14T11:15:20","slug":"branded-entertainment-is-at-a-crossroads-just-ask-kevin-hart","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/branded-entertainment-is-at-a-crossroads-just-ask-kevin-hart\/","title":{"rendered":"Branded Entertainment is at a Crossroads. Just Ask Kevin Hart."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ejj9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26296f59-42ad-4a78-9c0c-8bba95e48a66_1940x1090.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><picture><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ejj9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26296f59-42ad-4a78-9c0c-8bba95e48a66_1940x1090.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ejj9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26296f59-42ad-4a78-9c0c-8bba95e48a66_1940x1090.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ejj9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26296f59-42ad-4a78-9c0c-8bba95e48a66_1940x1090.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ejj9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26296f59-42ad-4a78-9c0c-8bba95e48a66_1940x1090.png 1456w\" sizes=\"100vw\"\/><\/picture><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>Just a few years ago, as ad-free streaming began to soar, there was a <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.medialink.com\/goods\/a-roadmap-for-discovery-driven-advertising\/\" rel=\"\">sudden renewed interest<\/a><span> in brands looking to integrate their messages into series, or underwrite them entirely. The branded entertainment business &#8211; long a sidecar for media plans &#8211; found itself with <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/musebyclios.com\/advertising\/the-future-of-streaming-ads\/\" rel=\"\">renewed urgency.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span>Fast forward to today, and ad-supported streaming options abound, and most of the growth being achieved by services like Netflix is found within their ad tiers, while at the same time free, ad-supported services are <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/corporate.tubitv.com\/press\/tubi-surpasses-97-million-monthly-active-users-and-10-billion-streaming-hours-in-2024\/\" rel=\"\">enjoying viewership jumps<\/a><span>. So where exactly does that leave branded content?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Kevin Hart\u2019s production\/advertising company <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hartbeat.com\/\" rel=\"\">Hartbeat<\/a><span> has sort of ridden the ebbs and flows of this ever-evolving sector. Even with his booming standup and movie career, Hart was relatively early on YouTube, launching the LOL network in 2017 and even participating in YouTube\u2019s seemingly final round of original content that same year with the celebrity workout reality show <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2017\/digital\/news\/youtube-kevin-hart-ellen-degeneres-katy-perry-advertising-1202409880\/\" rel=\"\">\u201cWhat the Fit?\u201d <\/a><\/p>\n<p><span>Earlier this year, the comedy-centric <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DFTWEXMS9w8\/\" rel=\"\">Hartbeat downsized<\/a><span>, consolidating departments while enduring layoffs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>While marketers are still interested in funding original shows, there seems a clear shift toward doing so with creators or creative talent versus owning a <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2014\/digital\/news\/new-hulu-comedy-serving-up-a-side-of-chipotle-1201098076\/\" rel=\"\">pricey Hulu scripted series,<\/a><span> for instance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>I caught up with Janina Lundy, Hartbeat\u2019s EVP, Global Head of Marketing &amp; Brand Partnerships, on my <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/6WYdV8VNHLNddW1LEKmyMf\" rel=\"\">Next in Media podcast<\/a><span> this week. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><iframe data-attrs=\"{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/i.scdn.co\/image\/ab6765630000ba8a70226c5871d998a2e2051687&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Inside Kevin Hart\u2019s Heartbeat with Janina Lundy&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;Mike Shields&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Episode&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6mw5u7hEyLt1s6SabHBd1j&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false}\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/6mw5u7hEyLt1s6SabHBd1j\" frameborder=\"0\" gesture=\"media\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allow=\"encrypted-media\" data-component-name=\"Spotify2ToDOM\" class=\"spotify-wrap podcast\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The industry vet, who\u2019s logged stints at Paramount and Amazon prior to Hartbeat, talked about changing appetites among marketers, whether brands are skittish about comedy, and why measurement remains a challenge.<\/p>\n<div id=\"youtube2-ezGEKmnuepM\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;ezGEKmnuepM&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}\" data-component-name=\"Youtube2ToDOM\" class=\"youtube-wrap\">\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/ezGEKmnuepM?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0\" frameborder=\"0\" loading=\"lazy\" gesture=\"media\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\" allowautoplay=\"true\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"728\" height=\"409\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em><strong>Here\u2019s Lundy on how marketers approach branded content, and the ever-evolving means of funding it:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think a lot of brands want to be in this space, but don\u2019t necessarily know how they want to be in the space. So everybody\u2019s kind of figuring it out as we go\u2026.There\u2019s the world of entering into space by just putting your brand into content, which I think is how it has been done in the past, just like a traditional integration. What we\u2019re looking to do and the way that we\u2019re working is more either co-creating content with a brand.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>On the fragmentation in the market:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201c<\/strong><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/mikeshields.substack.com\/p\/the-coming-creator-budget-tug-of\" rel=\"\">Sometimes we have media agencies who are coming to us<\/a><span> knowing that they want this to go through a media buy, but need us to just develop the content that\u2019s going to go with it. And some of it is creative-led. I think as far as where the budgets are coming from, originally [it\u2019s been] in-house, or they can come from an influencer team. They can come from some of the entertainment teams within different orgs within the brand team, they can come from social. So it\u2019s coming from all over.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe do get a lot of RFPs, but a lot of times we\u2019ll get an RFP that\u2019s more traditional, that somebody\u2019s looking for a commercial. We get a lot of calls of people who are looking for Kevin specifically. And you know, where we\u2019re really focused is on expanding beyond that and sort of bringing comedy and bringing other talents.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"youtube2-a_RijLC4tEM\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;a_RijLC4tEM&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}\" data-component-name=\"Youtube2ToDOM\" class=\"youtube-wrap\">\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/a_RijLC4tEM?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0\" frameborder=\"0\" loading=\"lazy\" gesture=\"media\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\" allowautoplay=\"true\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"728\" height=\"409\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Of course, it\u2019s hard for marketers to not look to Hart himself, given his huge following, his track record as a commercial spokesperson, and his willingness to experiment. A great example is \u201cCold as Balls,\u201d which is funded by Old Spice, featuring Hart interviewing athletes like Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson while both men sit in ice baths. That show has been running on YouTube for 12 seasons.<\/p>\n<p>Now, more consumers can watch a show like \u201cBalls\u201d on TV, which theoretically changes the equation -as brands don\u2019t necessarily have to ink a deal with a streaming service to get their branded entertainment project on the big screen. <\/p>\n<p><em><strong>But not every marketer sees it that way, said Lundy.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think you know that and I know that and I think everyone\u2019s reading that YouTube is where people are watching TV. But I think there\u2019s still education that exists with brands. A lot of brands still don\u2019t see [YouTube] as premium. And it\u2019s a conversation that we\u2019re having on a consistent basis because we find a lot of success in YouTube. That\u2019s where the audience is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd we\u2019re doing more premium content within YouTube, both short and long-form.\u201d <\/p>\n<p><span>An example of that is \u201c<\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLEA9mf3ZJGFwXOLgiwJnk0GU8kHI-JhoJ\" rel=\"\">Caddy and the Kid<\/a><span>,\u201d a travel\/golf series featuring Major League Baseball legend Ken Griffey Jr., which lives primarily on YouTube. \u201cWe\u2019re partnered with YouTube,\u201d said Lundy. \u201cThey\u2019re out alongside us, bringing it to brands.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"youtube2-89G0uH2KrBg\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;89G0uH2KrBg&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}\" data-component-name=\"Youtube2ToDOM\" class=\"youtube-wrap\">\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/89G0uH2KrBg?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0\" frameborder=\"0\" loading=\"lazy\" gesture=\"media\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen\" allowautoplay=\"true\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"728\" height=\"409\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u201cI think we have a lot of trust within the brands that we\u2019re working with. We\u2019ve kind of been in this space for a long time and people kind of have seen our track record of how we\u2019re working with talent and how we\u2019re working with creators and comedy and understanding the brand side.\u201d <\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><picture><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png 1456w\" sizes=\"100vw\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png\" width=\"1456\" height=\"818\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/a122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:818,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:2456237,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/mikeshields.substack.com\/i\/176050955?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Ktd7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa122b100-5557-4ef9-b07d-3346486bff3c_1940x1090.png 1456w\" sizes=\"auto, 100vw\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/picture><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>One area that remains thorny for Hartbeat, and others in this space, is measuring the impact of these kinds of shows in an outcomes-obsessed era. Dhar Mann Studios CEO Sean Atkins <\/span><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7383404311730348033\/\" rel=\"\">wrote about this on Linkedin<\/a><span>: \u201cCreators are becoming one of the most efficient parts of the marketing mix \u2014 if you measure them correctly,\u201d he wrote.<\/span><br \/><span>\u201dThe problem? Most brands and agencies don\u2019t. Goals, metrics, and creator type are almost always out of sync.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Lundy acknowledged that branded content measurement in particular is a work in progress:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s not a common way and we don\u2019t have the magic formula. But what I will say is again, coming from the brand side and coming from the advertising side, I understand what they\u2019re looking for and what they have to report on their side. We\u2019re in it. This is a business on our side too. So we want the content to be successful both for us and for the partners that we\u2019re working with. So that\u2019s the bottom line for us too.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>As for what\u2019s next for Hartbeat? Lundy could only say so much:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have this idea of brands can be movie stars too. So how can we personify the brand? So we are creating a character within the story that sort of is the brand. And that shows up in an authentic way where afterwards you think to yourself, \u201cwas that an integration or was it just a coincidence?\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source mikeshields.substack.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just a few years ago, as ad-free streaming began to soar, there was a sudden renewed interest in brands looking to integrate their messages into series, or underwrite them entirely. The branded entertainment business &#8211; long a sidecar for media plans &#8211; found itself with renewed urgency. 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