To mark their 50th anniversary, Penn Jillette and Teller returned to the scene of their first show. Having initially joined forces in 1975, the duo celebrated their golden anniversary, nearly to the day, at the Minnesota Renaissance Festival on the outskirts of Minneapolis last month. The Las Vegas-based comedians were greeted by a throng \u2014 nearly three times the size as the 1975 crowd and mostly older \u2014 who had waited for eight hours on a hot and humid Midwestern day to attend the performance. <\/p>\n
\u201cThe pants I wore 50 years ago somehow still fit me,\u201d Jillette tells The Times over Zoom from his home in Las Vegas.<\/p>\n
Back then, Jillette entertained audiences by juggling knives (\u201cI was a very, very good juggler and very much into comedy and writing\u201d). This time around, not having used them in years, he dusted off his old trunk, props and tricks (specifically Teller swallowing a bunch of needles and thread and bringing the needles up threaded) from 50 years ago with no problems.<\/p>\n
\u201cIt was strange to play that same thing,\u201d says Teller (born Raymond Joseph Derickson Teller) in a separate Zoom interview later that afternoon. But, he says, it\u2019s a trick that\u2019s so tried and true that if the sound system goes out or there are additional production issues, it still works.<\/p>\n
As much fun as it was to bring it all back home and pull out old favorites, Penn and Teller hate nostalgia.<\/p>\n
\u201cTeller and I have been called by friends the least sentimental people who have ever lived,\u201d Jillette says. \u201cI take Bob Dylan\u2019s [1967 documentary] \u2018Don\u2019t Look Back\u2019 to heart. But all that being said, performing there was pretty sweet.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cI think it means more to people outside of us than it does to ourselves,\u201d Teller says. \u201cIt\u2019s all just another gig.\u201d<\/p>\n
Back in the day, Penn, now 70, and Teller, 77, had intended to reimagine magic by bringing a comedic element into it. Before their careers in magic, Jillette was a juggler and Teller a Latin teacher, which allowed them the freedom to bring their diverse interests into their show. They weren\u2019t bound by the unwritten rules and restrictions that constrained magicians. They had a different type of showmanship that blended magic with comedy and rock \u2018n\u2019 roll flair. Yet, at the same time, Penn and Teller performed with earnestness and never judged their audiences. The approach opened them, and in turn, magic, to a broader group of people.<\/p>\n
\u201cThe idea was, could you do magic without insulting people?\u201d Jillette says. \u201cAnd, more so, could you do so with respect and without lying to your audience. And it\u2019s all playful. It\u2019s just a gentle exploration of a silly kind of truth.\u201d<\/p>\n
To him, most magicians aren\u2019t like that. Instead, Jillette says, they treat audiences as if they lack intelligence and want to \u201chave something over on them,\u201d and that is something he finds \u201cappalling.\u201d Instead, Penn and Teller always saw the relationship between them and their audience as symbiotic. \u201cMagic actually is the playful study of epistemology,\u201d Jillette says.<\/b> \u201cThat\u2019s what stage magic is supposed to be. It\u2019s respect, consent and truth.\u201d<\/p>\n
It\u2019s why the duo continues to endure.<\/p>\n
The boisterous Penn, left, and reticent Teller are a throwback to an era when the team was greater than the individual performer. <\/p>\n
(Joan Marcus)<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/figure><\/div>\n
\u201cI\u2019ve had a guy come up to me and say, \u2018My parents took me to see you when I was 7 years old. And this is my 7-year-old son,\u2019 \u201d Teller says. \u201cIt\u2019s something that really moved me. I feel like I\u2019m a member of their family.\u201d<\/p>\n
At the same time, if history has taught audiences anything, they\u2019ve learned they have to be careful about putting faith in these illusionists. In a sense, Penn and Teller are a throwback to an era when the team was greater than the individual performer. <\/p>\n
What\u2019s made Penn and Teller work together is the yin-and-yang of their public personas. Jillette carries himself with the brashness of Rowdy Roddy Piper yet is keen on presenting himself with an element of mystery, much like Dylan (on our Zoom call, a poster of Dylan\u2019s 1978 film \u201cRenaldo and Clara\u201d is in clear focus behind him). Even so, whether it\u2019s discussing the merits of Dylan\u2019s catalog, recalling encounters with Lou Reed as the president of his fan club (\u201cHe said I had to stop that because we became very close friends\u201d), Jillette is boisterous and outgoing. Meanwhile, the reticent Teller serves as the perfect foil. <\/p>\n
Collectively, what\u2019s allowed them to flourish is putting their show ahead of anything else. Despite maintaining somewhat of an illusion that they\u2019re not friends offstage, there\u2019s a mutual admiration between the two. During the separate conversations, there are moments when they reveal that they are pals in the context of describing their laser focus on putting together the best show possible. A magician doesn\u2019t reveal their tricks or let emotions be shown easily, but after working together for so long, the two speak of each other fondly, more like brothers than business associates (\u201cAfter I had quadruple bypass surgery, Penn visited me every day and came to me with ideas,\u201d Teller says. \u201cNothing was going to heal me faster than working on a magic idea, so I guess you can say we\u2019re secretly friends\u201d). <\/p>\n
Making sure the show is the best it can be, matters more to them than individual accolades.<\/p>\n
\u201cThere are long bits during the show, during which I\u2019m really just helping Penn as an assistant, and that\u2019s fine,\u201d Teller says. \u201cAnd there are long moments in the show where he\u2019s, like, playing music for something that I\u2019m doing. The only thing that matters is the value to the show.\u201d<\/p>\n
For most of the history of the medium, magicians have entertained audiences through a variety of means, most notably tricks, effects, sleights of hand or illusions of seemingly impossible feats. It\u2019s the excitement of engaging and building the best show possible that\u2019s served as Penn and Teller\u2019s ultimate motivation and ultimate bond, even if they have had their fair share of creative squabbles over the years, and sometimes the arguments go on for months.<\/p>\n
Initially introduced by Weir Chrisemer, who performed with them in the 1970s, Penn and Teller officially solidified their two-man act by the beginning of the 1980s. As they crafted their act through alternative locations Off Broadway, the duo broke through to the mainstream in 1985 on \u201cSaturday Night Live,\u201d where they performed their trick in which an audience member had to guess the correct card to spare Teller from certain death. Additional appearances on \u201cLate Night With David Letterman\u201d boosted their profile, and they won an Emmy for their 1985 special \u201cPenn & Teller Go Public.\u201d<\/p>\n
By that point, Penn and Teller weren\u2019t just content with their place in culture but also in their career.<\/p>\n
\u201cThe dividing line is, \u2018Can you earn your living doing what you passionately love?\u2019 \u201d Teller says. \u201cIf the answer to that is yes, you\u2019ve won the game. So the game was over for me in 1975 when I started street performing in Philadelphia with Penn and came home with enough money to pay the rent, buy food, and buy clothing.\u201d<\/p>\n
Today, when most of their peers have retired or died, Penn and Teller continue to keep themselves in front of audiences. Through their collective creative restlessness, they refuse to rest on their laurels. When they could have easily sat back and phoned in greatest-hits tours in places like Egypt, India and China, they instead have pushed themselves to make sure their show was better and to entertain as many people as possible. And that includes dusting off some of their hits from time to time.<\/p>\n
\u201cWe have the luxury of saying we haven\u2019t done that bit in the long run, right?\u201d Teller says. \u201cWhy don\u2019t we revive that and then take a fresh look at it? And we do.\u201d<\/p>\n
In the early 2000s, when the two appealed to an older crowd with their Showtime program \u201cPenn & Teller: Bulls\u2014!\u201d That show was centered on the duo\u2019s libertarianism (which softened considerably during the pandemic) and called out what the title of the show implied.<\/p>\n
But for the past 13 years, the duo\u2019s CW program \u201cPenn & Teller: Fool Us,\u201d in which other magicians attempt to fool Penn and Teller, has introduced them to a younger audience and inspired them to think of new tricks. Penn and Teller also implored the show\u2019s producers to feature magicians from underrepresented groups, hoping to disrupt the decades-long reality of magic being dominated by white males.<\/p>\n
\u201cMagicians in the 20th century were a misogynistic, painful group,\u201d Jillette says. All you need to know is the Magic Circle in London did not let women in until the \u201890s.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cThere are people of color, there are women, there are trans people who do magic, and that\u2019s really nice,\u201d Teller says. \u201cWe\u2019ve also seen very old people and really young people. There are 7-year-old card magicians who do stuff that I can\u2019t begin to imagine being able to do.\u201d<\/p>\n
The origins of \u201cFool Us\u201d came from a pure place, they say. Repulsed by other talent shows where gatekeepers insulted contestants, the duo came up with a concept where the only objective was to fool them with a single performance. And it worked. \u201cSome of the best magicians haven\u2019t fooled us,\u201d Jillette says. \u201cSome that are not to my taste have. Everybody [the contestants] is treated with respect.\u201d<\/p>\n
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<\/picture>\n\u201cWe have the luxury of saying we haven\u2019t done that bit in the long run, right?\u201d Teller says. \u201cWhy don\u2019t we revive that and then take a fresh look at it? And we do.\u201d<\/p>\n
(Joan Marcus)<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/figure><\/div>\n
Having been on \u201cThe Apprentice,\u201d Jillette knows a thing or two about deception outside of performing magic \u2014 specifically the charade of a competition television show. Calling it \u201ca joke,\u201d Jillette doesn\u2019t mince words when it comes to the current president. Ripping him for being \u201cthe only person to fail to run a casino,\u201d Jillette isn\u2019t afraid to lift the curtain of that show, on which Teller made cameos as well.<\/p>\n
\u201cHim acting successful was a goof,\u201d he says. \u201cHe had no boardroom; they built a set for him. He had no assistant. He wasn\u2019t doing anything and was ripping people off, and not even that very successfully. When you have no morality and you\u2019re not successful, it\u2019s remarkable that with a lack of shame and a lack of morality, he became president of the United States, which goes against my entire worldview.\u201d<\/p>\n
Unlike some career-minded magicians, Jillette insists that he and Teller had no ambitions beyond entertaining audiences. He is adamant that he\u2019d be as content performing on street corners as he would at the duo\u2019s residency at the Rio in Las Vegas in a theater that bears their name. Jillette says success to them is that they\u2019re still performing and still working.<\/p>\n
\u201cWe have never had goals and we\u2019ve never had market plans,\u201d he says. \u201cWe just get ideas and do them.\u201d<\/p>\n
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<\/picture>\n\u201cI don\u2019t understand why people get into this to get out of it,\u201d Jillette says. \u201cJohnny Carson retired when he was at the peak of his game, and Frank Sinatra kept going until he declined. Let\u2019s put it this way: I want to be Sinatra. I still want to go on stage when I suck.\u201d<\/p>\n
(Francis George)<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/figure><\/div>\n
That said, only two of the bits they perform are over five years old. The two are constantly writing and developing new bits, trying to keep the show as fresh and relevant as it was when they exploded into the pop culture lexicon.<\/p>\n
\u201cT.S. Eliot said old men should be explorers,\u201d Jillette says. \u201cWe do the new stuff because we want to do the new stuff. I like the stuff we\u2019ve done, and I don\u2019t change stuff to keep myself amused. I change stuff because there\u2019s stuff I want to say.\u201d<\/p>\n
Following their show at the Minnesota Renaissance Festival, Penn and Teller went immediately to their next show, which was at New York City\u2019s Radio City Music Hall. There it was, the journey of 50 years captured in back-to-back shows.<\/p>\n
\u201cI don\u2019t understand why people get into this to get out of it,\u201d Jillette says. \u201cJohnny Carson retired when he was at the peak of his game, and Frank Sinatra kept going until he declined. Let\u2019s put it this way: I want to be Sinatra. I still want to go on stage when I suck.\u201d<\/p>\n
Teller agrees but sees his demise a bit \u2026 differently.<\/p>\n
\u201cI\u2019m expecting my demise will be something like this,\u201d he says. There\u2019s a box in the middle of the stage. Penn comes out and says, \u2018Good evening. My name is Penn Jillette, and this is my partner, Teller. He opens the box, looks, and he says, \u2018Oh, he\u2019s dead. The show is over.\u2019 \u201d<\/p>\n
What\u2019s more magical than that?<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n
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