{"id":2095995,"date":"2025-10-16T19:10:44","date_gmt":"2025-10-16T19:10:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2095995"},"modified":"2025-10-16T19:10:44","modified_gmt":"2025-10-16T19:10:44","slug":"why-ryan-murphy-included-that-mindhunter-easter-egg-in-monster-the-ed-gein-story","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/why-ryan-murphy-included-that-mindhunter-easter-egg-in-monster-the-ed-gein-story\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Ryan Murphy Included That Mindhunter Easter Egg In Monster: The Ed Gein Story"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div data-article-body=\"true\">\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">&#8220;American Crime Story&#8221; and &#8220;Monster&#8221; creator Ryan Murphy has a history of making &#8230; unusual choices when adapting true stories, often changing facts to make things more entertaining (and salacious) and <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.slashfilm.com\/1671168\/monsters-mendendez-brothers-controversy-ryan-murphy-netflix\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:just as frequently courting controversy;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">just as frequently courting controversy<\/a> by doing so. Admittedly, it can be tricky to get things just right when dealing with topics as complicated as those in &#8220;Monster,&#8221; which details the crimes of alleged real-world killers. For the series&#8217; third chapter, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/entertainment\/tv\/articles\/5-biggest-details-monster-ed-200000858.html\" data-ylk=\"slk:&quot;Monster: The Ed Gein Story,&quot; Murphy made quite a few big changes and omissions;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;outcm:mb_qualified_link;_E:mb_qualified_link;ct:story;\" class=\"link  yahoo-link\">&#8220;Monster: The Ed Gein Story,&#8221; Murphy made quite a few big changes and omissions<\/a> to the tale of notorious Plainfield, Wisconsin killer Ed Gein. Indeed, one particularly strange change even led to the series crossing over with another popular Netflix show: David Fincher&#8217;s &#8220;Mindhunter.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Although the series&#8217; timelines don&#8217;t line up, Murphy nevertheless has Happy Anderson reprise his &#8220;Mindhunter&#8221; role as Jerry &#8220;Shoe Fetish Slayer&#8221; Brudos in the &#8220;Ed Gein&#8221; finale. He even interacts with FBI agents John Douglas (Sean Carrigan) and Robert Ressler (Caleb Ruminer) \u2014 who are clearly dressed like their &#8220;Mindhunter&#8221; counterparts, Holden Ford (Jonathan Groff) and Bill Tench (Holt McCallany) \u2014 while the episode around them completely changes the show&#8217;s style. Speaking to the <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/tv\/newsletter\/2025-10-10\/monster-ed-gein-netflix-gen-v-prime-video-born-poor-frontline-pbs\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Los Angeles Times;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">Los Angeles Times<\/a>, however, series co-creator Ian Brennan insisted that he and Murphy simply <em>had<\/em> to pay homage to Fincher&#8217;s crime show. Claiming that &#8220;Monster&#8221; finales are &#8220;particularly difficult,&#8221; he explained:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"mb-4 border-l-2 pl-5 italic text-tertiary\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">&#8220;We knew we needed to top the episodes that had preceded it by shifting the show&#8217;s look and tone \u2014 and we had in our hands the nugget that John Douglas and Robert Ressler had, indeed, interviewed Ed Gein in person. Ryan and I both find David Fincher&#8217;s oeuvre almost uniquely inspiring, so once we pictured an episode that played as an homage to Fincher&#8217;s tone and style and narrative approach, it was something I, at least, just couldn&#8217;t unsee.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Read more: <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.slashfilm.com\/1755427\/the-twilight-zone-best-actors-ranked\/?zsource=yahoo\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:The 10 Best Actors On The Original Twilight Zone Series, Ranked;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">The 10 Best Actors On The Original Twilight Zone Series, Ranked<\/a><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"mb-4 text-xl font-bold md:text-2xl\">Bizarre adaptation choices just seem to be the norm for Monster<\/h2>\n<figure class=\"relative mb-4\">\n<div class=\"relative\"><button aria-label=\"View larger image\" class=\"group absolute bottom-3 right-3 size-10 md:size-[50px] lg:inset-0 lg:size-full lg:bg-transparent\" data-ylk=\"elm:expand;itc:1;sec:image-lightbox;slk:lightbox-open;\"><span class=\"absolute bottom-0 right-0 rounded-full bg-white p-3 opacity-100 shadow-elevation-3 transition-opacity duration-300 group-hover:block group-hover:opacity-100 md:p-[17px] lg:bottom-6 lg:right-6 lg:bg-white\/90 lg:p-5 lg:opacity-0 lg:shadow-none\"><svg viewbox=\"0 0 22 22\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"size-4 lg:size-6\" width=\"22\" height=\"22\"><path d=\"M12.372.92c0-.506.41-.916.915-.916L21 0l-.004 7.712a.917.917 0 0 1-1.832 0V3.183l-6.827 6.828-1.349-1.348 6.828-6.828h-4.529a.915.915 0 0 1-.915-.915M1.835 17.816l6.828-6.828 1.349 1.349-6.829 6.827h4.529a.915.915 0 0 1 0 1.831L0 21l.004-7.713a.916.916 0 0 1 1.831 0z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/button><dialog aria-label=\"Modal Dialog\" aria-modal=\"true\" class=\"fixed inset-0 z-4 size-full max-h-none max-w-none bg-white hidden\"\/><\/div><figcaption class=\"relative text-sm mt-1 pr-2.5\">\n<p>Sean Carrigan as John Douglas and Caleb Ruminer as Robert Ressler looking through a one-way mirror on Monster: The Ed Gein Story &#8211; Netflix<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">To clarify: Douglas and Ressler are the real-life counterparts of the fictional Ford and Tench, and the pair helped to create the FBI&#8217;s Behavioral Crimes Unit and create a methodology for tracking down serial killers in the real world. (If that sounds familiar, it&#8217;s probably because Douglas is also the inspiration for the Will Graham character from &#8220;Red Dragon&#8221; and the &#8220;Hannibal&#8221; TV series.) But while fans who are desperate for that canceled &#8220;Mindhunter&#8221; season 3 (either that or <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.slashfilm.com\/1890170\/netflix-best-show-mindhunter-movies\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:the proposed &quot;Mindhunter&quot; movies;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">the proposed &#8220;Mindhunter&#8221; movies<\/a>) might enjoy seeing a watered-down version of the show, it honestly feels bizarre seeing that ultra-grounded world cross streams with the supermarket tabloid gloss of &#8220;Monster.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">While it&#8217;s understandable that anyone would want to pay homage to the absolute greatness of Fincher&#8217;s directorial style and the genius that is &#8220;Mindhunter,&#8221; the only thing &#8220;Monster&#8221; really accomplishes by directly copying the series this way is a pale imitation. Really, &#8220;Monster&#8221; and &#8220;Mindhunter&#8221; take such wildly different approaches to their heavy and sensitive material that seeing them juxtaposed in the &#8220;Ed Gein&#8221; finale is truly confounding. &#8220;Mindhunter&#8221; might be fictionalized, but it still deals with real-life history and serial killers. That&#8217;s also why it takes great care to avoid re-traumatizing the actual victims of the murderers it depicts, all while avoiding playing into harmful tropes. The same can definitely <em>not<\/em> be said of Murphy and Brennan&#8217;s show, though. <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/entertainment\/tv\/articles\/monster-ed-gein-story-details-190000244.html\" data-ylk=\"slk:&quot;Monster: The Ed Gein Story&quot; not only plays fast and loose with the facts;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;outcm:mb_qualified_link;_E:mb_qualified_link;ct:story;\" class=\"link  yahoo-link\">&#8220;Monster: The Ed Gein Story&#8221; not only plays fast and loose with the facts<\/a>, but it also continues to demonize transgender women via the deeply harmful &#8220;killer crossdresser&#8221; trope (<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.slashfilm.com\/659186\/the-silence-of-the-lambs-controversy-explained\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:see also: &quot;The Silence of the Lambs&quot;;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">see also: &#8220;The Silence of the Lambs&#8221;<\/a>). Maybe Murphy should simply leave the serial killer storytelling to Fincher \u2014 we&#8217;d all be better off.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">&#8220;Monster&#8221; and &#8220;Mindhunter&#8221; are both streaming on Netflix.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">If you&#8217;re looking for the easiest way to keep up with all the major movie and TV news, why not <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/subscribe.slashfilm.com\/newsletter-syndicated\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:sign up to our free newsletter;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">sign up to our free newsletter<\/a>? You can also <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/preferences\/source?q=slashfilm.com\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:add us as a preferred search source;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">add us as a preferred search source<\/a> on Google.<\/p>\n<p class=\"mb-4 text-lg md:leading-8 break-words\">Read the <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.slashfilm.com\/1998904\/why-ryan-murphy-included-mindhunter-easter-egg-monster-ed-gein-story\/?zsource=yahoo\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:original article on SlashFilm;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" class=\"link \">original article on SlashFilm<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.yahoo.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;American Crime Story&#8221; and &#8220;Monster&#8221; creator Ryan Murphy has a history of making &#8230; unusual choices when adapting true stories, often changing facts to make things more entertaining (and salacious) and just as frequently courting controversy by doing so. 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