{"id":2126996,"date":"2025-10-31T14:26:11","date_gmt":"2025-10-31T14:26:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2126996"},"modified":"2025-10-31T14:26:11","modified_gmt":"2025-10-31T14:26:11","slug":"what-does-it-mean-to-be-plain-old-andrew-mountbatten-windsor-monarchy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/what-does-it-mean-to-be-plain-old-andrew-mountbatten-windsor-monarchy\/","title":{"rendered":"What does it mean to be plain old Andrew Mountbatten Windsor? | Monarchy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">In The Queen and I, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/books\/2014\/apr\/11\/sue-townsend-1946-2014\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">the novelist Sue Townsend<\/a> imagined the monarchy being abolished and the royal family banished to a council estate, on a street known locally as Hell Close.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">That was wild, hilarious fiction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Today it is a stone-cold fact that Prince Andrew has been abolished and banished. It\u2019s quite different from seeing out his days in a council house, but few imagine that his new life, somewhere on the lush Sandringham estate, will be anything other than a private hell.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Andrew is a commoner, but what will that mean? What will life be like for 65-year-old <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk\/prince-andrew\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\">Andrew Mountbatten Windsor<\/a>? Will it bring an end to the questions still being asked about him and his dealings with the late disgraced financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Royal observers believe Thursday\u2019s announcement represents nothing short of \u201cabsolute humiliation\u201d for Andrew.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Richard Fitzwilliams, a royal author and commentator, told the Guardian: \u201cI think it will be pretty well a living hell for him, given his particular fondness for titles and his entitled attitude.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"41581a02-54c4-49a3-a8f2-dd2148fda9fa\" data-spacefinder-role=\"richLink\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.RichLinkBlockElement\" class=\"dcr-47fhrn\"><gu-island name=\"RichLinkComponent\" priority=\"feature\" deferuntil=\"idle\" props=\"{&quot;richLinkIndex&quot;:6,&quot;element&quot;:{&quot;_type&quot;:&quot;model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.RichLinkBlockElement&quot;,&quot;prefix&quot;:&quot;Related: &quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The fall of Prince Andrew \u2013 a timeline&quot;,&quot;elementId&quot;:&quot;41581a02-54c4-49a3-a8f2-dd2148fda9fa&quot;,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;richLink&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2022\/jan\/13\/prince-andrew-a-timeline&quot;},&quot;ajaxUrl&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/api.nextgen.guardianapps.co.uk&quot;,&quot;format&quot;:{&quot;design&quot;:10,&quot;display&quot;:0,&quot;theme&quot;:0}}\"\/><\/figure>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Andrew has never done himself any favours, Fitzwilliams said. The public have rarely warmed to him. \u201cOne of the troubles with him is that he has proven to be so greedy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cPeople see him as entitled, greedy and also unbelievably bovine because of that extraordinary Newsnight interview,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Titles are rarely taken away and the history of it will surely burn hard on Andrew\u2019s pride. The last men to be stripped of their princehood were the Dukes of Cumberland and Albany, in 1919, after they fought for Germany in the first world war.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Observers say that when he was a prince, Andrew particularly enjoyed going to the annual and lavish Garter Day ceremony at Windsor Castle in June.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">But he has been stripped of the Order of the Garter, too, just as Emperor Hirohito of Japan was during the second world war.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cHe has been treated as an enemy of the state, effectively,\u201d the royal biographer Robert Hardman told Sky News.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"b21aba82-a016-44d8-9f50-49a812c9e2c8\" data-spacefinder-role=\"thumbnail\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.ImageBlockElement\" class=\"dcr-13rnsx0\"><figcaption data-spacefinder-role=\"inline\" class=\"dcr-fd61eq\"><span class=\"dcr-1inf02i\"><svg width=\"18\" height=\"13\" viewbox=\"0 0 18 13\"><path d=\"M18 3.5v8l-1.5 1.5h-15l-1.5-1.5v-8l1.5-1.5h3.5l2-2h4l2 2h3.5l1.5 1.5zm-9 7.5c1.9 0 3.5-1.6 3.5-3.5s-1.6-3.5-3.5-3.5-3.5 1.6-3.5 3.5 1.6 3.5 3.5 3.5z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><span class=\"dcr-1qvd3m6\">Japan\u2019s Emperor Hirohito was stripped of the Order of the Garter in 1941.<\/span> Photograph: AP<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Andrew is banished and has no chance of being invited to the king\u2019s Christmas celebrations \u2013 or any royal event save, perhaps, royal funerals, said Fitzwilliams.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Questions remain, though, including why Andrew remains eighth in line to the throne.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI\u2019m sure at some point quite soon, somebody will ask, if they\u2019ve not already done so, why he hasn\u2019t been moved from the line of succession,\u201d said Joe Little, the managing editor of Majesty Magazine.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Little told the Guardian it is not all bleak for Andrew, particularly since the king is providing him somewhere new to live.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cHe will no longer be in Windsor, but he\u2019ll be on a private royal estate in Norfolk, and will have accommodation provided and he will be supported in other ways by his brother, the king, for whom it\u2019s been, equally, a very difficult time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Andrew has always denied any wrongdoing, but if he thinks the stripping of his titles is the end of troubles, then others will beg to disagree. He is now an \u201cordinary member of the public\u201d and some see that as an opportunity for him to be extradited.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The family of the late Virginia Giuffre \u2013 who claimed to have been trafficked to and made to have sex with Andrew when she was 17 \u2013 continue to call for Andrew to face justice in the US. <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/cy9pn12w4n8o\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">He \u201cneeds to be behind bars\u201d<\/a>, Giuffre\u2019s brother Sky Roberts told the BBC\u2019s Newsnight programme on Thursday.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"54d6398d-280f-43e9-b1b0-04eae84846d0\" data-spacefinder-role=\"richLink\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.RichLinkBlockElement\" class=\"dcr-47fhrn\"><gu-island name=\"RichLinkComponent\" priority=\"feature\" deferuntil=\"idle\" props=\"{&quot;richLinkIndex&quot;:21,&quot;element&quot;:{&quot;_type&quot;:&quot;model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.RichLinkBlockElement&quot;,&quot;prefix&quot;:&quot;Related: &quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\u2018Prince Andrew believed having sex with me was his birthright\u2019: Virginia Giuffre on her abuse at the hands of Epstein, Maxwell and the king\u2019s brother&quot;,&quot;elementId&quot;:&quot;54d6398d-280f-43e9-b1b0-04eae84846d0&quot;,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;richLink&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2025\/oct\/15\/prince-andrew-virginia-giuffre-abuse-epstein-maxwell&quot;},&quot;ajaxUrl&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/api.nextgen.guardianapps.co.uk&quot;,&quot;format&quot;:{&quot;design&quot;:10,&quot;display&quot;:0,&quot;theme&quot;:0}}\"\/><\/figure>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The UK trade minister Sir Chris Bryant also suggested Andrew should, if asked, go to the US to answer questions about the crimes of Epstein.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Bryant told the BBC: \u201cI think that, just as with any ordinary member of the public, if there were requests from another jurisdiction of this kind, I would expect any decently minded person to comply with that request.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The Democratic congressman <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/videos\/cly989985m0o\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Suhas Subramanyam recently called on Andrew to appear before a committee<\/a> that is investigating the handling of Jeffrey Epstein\u2019s prosecution.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cIf he did nothing wrong, he should come before a committee and swear himself in and testify that he did nothing wrong,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">In the UK there have been signs that <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2025\/oct\/22\/prince-andrew-royal-lodge-residence-inquiry-calls-mps\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">formal parliamentary inquiries may be launched into Andrew\u2019s affairs<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The Metropolitan police have also said they are \u201cactively\u201d <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2025\/oct\/19\/met-prince-andrew-police-bodyguard-information-virginia-giuffre\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">looking into claims that Andrew passed Giuffre\u2019s date of birth and social security number<\/a> to his police protection officer in an attempt to dig up dirt for a smear campaign.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">It is impossible to say exactly what is next for Andrew, but no one can see a meaningful way back for him as a public figure.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.theguardian.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In The Queen and I, the novelist Sue Townsend imagined the monarchy being abolished and the royal family banished to a council estate, on a street known locally as Hell Close. 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