{"id":2127396,"date":"2025-10-31T18:03:22","date_gmt":"2025-10-31T18:03:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2127396"},"modified":"2025-10-31T18:03:22","modified_gmt":"2025-10-31T18:03:22","slug":"now-andrew-has-been-fired-from-the-firm-a-nation-wonders-wholl-be-next-marina-hyde","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/now-andrew-has-been-fired-from-the-firm-a-nation-wonders-wholl-be-next-marina-hyde\/","title":{"rendered":"Now Andrew has been fired from the Firm, a nation wonders: who\u2019ll be next? | Marina Hyde"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"><span style=\"color:var(--drop-cap);font-weight:300\" class=\"dcr-15rw6c2\">I<\/span>ncredible news for residents of the likes of Prince Andrew Drive and Prince Andrew Way, who in recent years have sought name changes from their local councils to remove the unfortunate association with You Know Who. Thanks to last night\u2019s historically <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2025\/oct\/30\/prince-andrew-leave-royal-lodge-windsor\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">dramatic action by the king<\/a>, the dignity of those aforementioned small stretches of Britain has been restored. (If anyone happens to live in Andrew Mountbatten Windsor Close, my commiserations.) But has the dignity of the British monarchy \u2013 current custodians: the House of Windsor \u2013 been restored? No, I reckon. In fact, this has made it worse.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">By way of background, the royal family\u2019s crises have not been external for some time. It is not beset by marauding forces, or rival claimants to its throne, or parliamentarian revolt. All its greatest crises in the past few decades have come from within. Those crises have been marital, financial, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk-news\/2024\/mar\/22\/princess-kate-cancer-royal-family-health-annus-horribilis\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">even clinical<\/a> \u2013 and have just avoided being criminal. The royal family has proved its own worst enemy. The things that have happened have not happened <em>to<\/em> it, but <em>because<\/em> of it. The call\u2019s coming from inside the castle.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">I\u2019ve covered this particular Andrew story for well over a decade, and it hopefully goes without saying that the ex-prince is an utterly grim, utterly dim disgrace. But for my money, this latest Windsor crisis is the most dangerous variety yet for the crown: philosophical. Far from securing the monarchy\u2019s future, the de-princing of Mr Mountbatten Windsor has hastened its end, in the great scheme of things. Don\u2019t ask me to put a number of years on \u201cthe great scheme of things\u201d \u2013 all I can tell you is that it\u2019s a real rush writing a column that will only be proved right or wrong long after I\u2019m dead. Tony Blair must feel like this every time he says history will judge him kindly for the Iraq war.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">But look, here\u2019s the take: when there isn\u2019t a royal family any more, analysts will look back and see the unprecedented enforced commoner-ing of Andrew as a key moment. Not <em>the<\/em> key moment \u2013 that was the abdication. Forgive me getting all Stranger Things on this story, but 1936 was the moment the Windsors opened the gate. Once they started suggesting that people could be fired from Earth\u2019s most committed non-meritocracy \u2013 unroyalled, as it were \u2013 then they played around fatally with the idea of royalty itself. Now, you might well think that the idea of royalty itself is stupid, but it is what it is. They\u2019re not just another random rich family. They\u2019re supposed to be special and ethereal and not subject to personnel issues. There\u2019s no way in the world they should want to be stepping out of their realm \u2013 which is, quite literally \u201cthe realm\u201d \u2013 and into the plebeian waters of appraisals and feedback and mandatory discrimination training and whatnot. Though all that would, as always, make a fun three-minute comedy sketch.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The most almighty number of shitbag relatives have been harboured by the British royal family down the centuries. Obviously it was easier when you could just poison your errant brother or whatever, but for those that couldn\u2019t (most of them after the 17th century), you lived with it via exile and so on, because total deroyalling torpedoed the entire idea of what it was you were born into. The <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/Geo5\/7-8\/47\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">British dukes who had their titles removed<\/a> for fighting for Germany in the first world war were distant foreign randos. Andrew remains eighth in line to the throne.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">So yes: the abdication was when the Windsors opened the gate. After that it was \u2013 and will be \u2013 whack-a-mole. Every crisis will draw significant numbers of people out who would ask why you couldn\u2019t cut off whoever was displeasing them in that moment. And why not? You got rid of one: the precedent is set. My theory is that the late Queen Elizabeth realised this, and consequently knew that to avoid making matters worse, she would have to work as queen till literally her dying day. Don\u2019t forget that for quite some time, people seriously suggested that the crown skip the then-unsatisfactory Charles and be passed straight to William. Don\u2019t forget that later on, people kept suggesting that Elizabeth abdicate in favour of Charles, having put in decades of exemplary service and being deserving of retirement, as though monarchy really were this ludicrous \u201cfirm\u201d they keep telling us it is.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">But it isn\u2019t. It isn\u2019t a firm, or a small-to-medium enterprise, or a place where you pick and choose which family member gets the big jobs. They\u2019re not the flipping Murdochs. As far as the long-termist stewardship of the thing they are above all charged with protecting goes, I think that, philosophically speaking, you have to play the cards you\u2019re laid. Now public opinion has managed to get the king to issue a P45 so close to home, it will be that much easier to call for the next personnel change. The king won\u2019t have too many more years in the managing director role. But William, that supposedly iron-fisted current HR director, is a very indifferently gifted individual who will probably prove to be overpromoted in the role of king. I wonder who or what he\u2019ll cancel, under his strange, self-styled guise as protector of the mental health of the nation. I guess we\u2019ll find out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">For what infinitely negligible amount it\u2019s worth, I\u2019m in favour of having a royal family, mainly because they\u2019re insanely good copy, and arguably better than having Peter Mandelson or whoever as head of state. (I\u2019m kidding: I understand third ways are available.) Given the sheer amount of merriment\/discourse they generate, they add to the gaiety of the nation \u2013 certainly to the compulsive prurience. People love to love them or love to hate them. It seems to be a complete misery machine for those involved, and certainly not one that any of us ordinaries would in our right mind want our children to marry into (I will never get over the Middleton parents\u2019 reported keenness for Kate to take a gap year so she could switch university application to St Andrews once it was confirmed <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/uk\/prince-william\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\">Prince William<\/a> would be attending \u2013 and all this after the cautionary story of Princess Diana had come to its awful end).<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Speaking of tragic stories, the law has decided Andrew can\u2019t be further investigated over the late Virginia Giuffre\u2019s allegations, with the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/world-news\/2025\/07\/07\/epstein-not-murdered-no-client-list-fbi-memo\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">FBI dropping its probe<\/a> into him earlier this year. The king\u2019s statement on the de-princing appeared to hint he doesn\u2019t entirely believe his brother\u2019s denials, so perhaps Charles\u2019s actions are a sort of synthesised justice, designed in part to show that no one is above the law. 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