GQ<\/em><\/a> where they staked their claim as the best rap duo out there and aired out all outstanding beefs (and revealed some new ones); that interview became the de facto start to the year\u2019s most engaging album rollout. Since we last talked, they\u2019ve solidified their status as having the best rap album of the year, headlined a nationwide tour big enough to bring the reclusive Kendrick Lamar out for a cameo, and made history as the first rappers to perform at the Vatican.<\/p>\nNext up? Pursuing their first-ever Grammy.<\/p>\n
GQ: One thing that we heard this year was a lot of people were really into the rollout, especially the intention behind it. But the funny thing is that the way you rolled the album out was traditional, in a sense. But I think that speaks to a feeling that was missing, and you had to help restore it.<\/strong><\/p>\nPusha T:<\/strong> You got to understand, we\u2019re creating this music, but we\u2019re also trying to really re-create the enthusiasm amongst ourselves. We<\/em> got the enthusiasm, but we\u2019re trying to see it and feel it in the world. I\u2019m not getting up, going to 7-Eleven, picking up a mag, arguing with my man about somebody got three-and-a-half mics.<\/p>\nThose touchpoints aren\u2019t really out here like that anymore. People aren\u2019t sitting down with Frazier. They\u2019re not! They won\u2019t do it, bro! They\u2019re surprise-dropping the music so they don\u2019t have to get no feedback on nothing. This is what they\u2019ll do versus like, \u201cYo. Let\u2019s put it on the table. We really standing on it.\u201d People talk about standing on business. This is the best way to do it musically.<\/p>\n
And then it means that much more when you come out onstage and say \u201cAlbum of the Year.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\nPusha T:<\/strong> Exactly. When you talk about the nostalgia of hip-hop journalism, what it meant being hot in the streets, the chatter, the opinions, the lunch-table arguments, the barbershop arguments\u2014that\u2019s what the whole mindset of that rollout was about.<\/p>\nIn the midst of that, did you feel a sort of protectiveness over your brother? One thing that came up when we spoke last time was the foolishness that can surround the industry. Bringing him back into the fold, was there a sense of, I\u2019m not going to bring you into a shit show<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\nPusha T:<\/strong> That was definitely my mentality. But I feel like in my heart, I was like, we are going to get everything due us<\/em>. It\u2019s got to look a certain way, be a certain way, feel a certain way. The trifecta of myself, my brother, and Pharrell\u2026. There\u2019s nobody else that we need musically to do what we got to do. Just our circle. People who are not with the agenda, I don\u2019t want to be connected to it. Selfishly, I don\u2019t want nothing to do with anyone. How about that? [Laughs.<\/em>] That\u2019s just what it is.<\/p>\nNot to get too meta, but you got criticism for some interviews, like ours and others, about being confrontational [airing out grievances with the likes of Kanye and Travis Scott]. Some people would say that you\u2019re stoking that to promote.<\/strong><\/p>\nMalice:<\/strong> Yeah, but look who\u2019s saying that, though. Because on the other end of that spectrum, there are people who really see clearly that Pusha don\u2019t<\/em> lean on that kind of stuff. And look how long he sat on what has been going on. But that\u2019s what they do on the other side. So they think that we play that over here, but nah, we don\u2019t. And we don\u2019t snitch and we don\u2019t tell.<\/p>\nStanding on it. Say what I had to say, and that\u2019s it.<\/strong><\/p>\nPusha T:<\/strong> You can\u2019t let the journalism be a main focus of the rollout and you tiptoe around shit. I wasn\u2019t going to come in and give you scenarios, and be tiptoeing around the stories. I\u2019ll take the criticism, it\u2019s fine. But never call me a liar. Because I never lie. I never lie.<\/em> Lemme tell you something: I think lying\u2019s for bitches. If you lie about shit, that\u2019s because you\u2019re scared of something, and I\u2019m not scared of anything or anybody. So what I say is what I say.<\/p>\nSo take it back to this time last year. I\u2019m sure you were probably a little bit frustrated with having this great body of work on deck, but bullshit label politics holding it up. But in a way, it\u2019s like there\u2019s a sense of divine timing here because this year is unfolding incredibly in a way that could have only unfolded with that series of events, right?<\/strong><\/p>\nPusha T:<\/strong> It\u2019s something that I feel like I\u2019ve learned, and I\u2019ve learned it a lot from watching my brother too. He doesn\u2019t get ruffled by anything that happens. He goes with the flow of everything. I\u2019ve never had that approach\u2014man, I try to keep everything in line, in order. This is how it\u2019s supposed<\/em> to go. And with this particular project, man, I couldn\u2019t have been more wrong in having that attitude.<\/p>\nMalice:<\/strong> Well, I\u2019ve always had the same approach he had. I learned<\/em> this approach. I was taught this approach.<\/p>\nIn what ways did both of you come to learn that?<\/strong><\/p>\nMalice:<\/strong> Because life will hand you a bunch of curveballs and trying to be in control and manage everything can put you at your wit\u2019s end\u2014and then it still happens the way that it was meant to happen. So that\u2019s just something that I learned in this 16-year absence for sure.<\/p>\nPusha, I\u2019m picturing that classic video of you banging on the wall, yelling to drop \u201cNumbers on the Boards.\u201d I know you were doing that this time last year.<\/strong><\/p>\nPusha T:<\/strong> No, for sure. Are you kidding me, man? And to think we had the heat. When we make it, we are extremely confident about it and eager to put it out. It\u2019s all about letting people hear it. You know what I\u2019m saying? And just getting yourself in the conversation and taking the critiques, the good with the bad. That\u2019s the type of energy we thrive off of. It\u2019s always competitive, but it\u2019s always about hearing the opinions and just being like, you know, they might be a little right about that,<\/em> or whatever the case may be. I just love to hear it all, but not being able to get it out, man, it\u2019s stifling. We know what the hell we doing at all times. When it\u2019s cooked, it\u2019s cooked. And we know it\u2019s cooked. There\u2019s never extras and leftovers. It\u2019s not a lot of going back and retinkering and retooling. I let Pharrell do that on production stuff. But as far as these raps go, no way.<\/p>\nCan we talk about process a little? Pharrell was cooking up \u00e0 la carte, right? I think you said this to Joe Budden, about how you have to sometimes tell Pharrell what you don\u2019t want or to scale things back. What is that process like, to fine-tune everything, where the three of you have been working together for so long, but still chasing new highs?<\/strong><\/p>\nPusha T:<\/strong> I think we find it\u2019s a lot of different emotions that go into that process. But then you get into the stubbornness of knowing exactly what you want and not wanting to waver. I\u2019m extremely passionate about hard-core, lyric-driven hip-hop. I think that\u2019s where you show your skill set. I don\u2019t think that ever goes out of style. And I don\u2019t think a lot of people can do it with taste and swag. So if that\u2019s not the target or the bull\u2019s-eye\u2014after song one, two, or three, I\u2019m getting pissed<\/em>. P\u2019s like, \u201cNah, man, you need these colors.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cMan, listen, you better get to it.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.gq.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Sweaters (worn at neck) by Ralph Lauren Purple Label. Jackets, shirts, pants, and ties by Polo Ralph Lauren. Shoes by G.H. Bass. Socks by Todd Snyder. Jewelry, subjects\u2019 own. \u201cWe are going to get everything due us,\u201d Pusha T remembers thinking when he and Malice embarked upon their reunion as the rap group Clipse. 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