{"id":2190232,"date":"2025-12-07T17:24:12","date_gmt":"2025-12-07T17:24:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2190232"},"modified":"2025-12-07T17:24:12","modified_gmt":"2025-12-07T17:24:12","slug":"new-orleans-kermit-ruffins-talks-cannabis-and-reefer-songs-music-gambit-weekly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/new-orleans-kermit-ruffins-talks-cannabis-and-reefer-songs-music-gambit-weekly\/","title":{"rendered":"New Orleans&#8217; Kermit Ruffins talks cannabis and reefer songs | Music | Gambit Weekly"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div id=\"article-body\" itemprop=\"articleBody\" false=\"\">\n                                <meta itemprop=\"isAccessibleForFree\" content=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p>New Orleans trumpeter and vocalist Kermit Ruffins put it succinctly during <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=-Hq5GHkzRp0\" target=\"_blank\">a 2011 interview<\/a> with cannabis magazine High Times: \u201cI need two things to have a perfect show: reefer and people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ruffins\u2019 affection for reefer \u2014 his preferred term for cannabis \u2014 is well known among locals who might catch sight of a stray pipe or bong hanging around the Mother-in-Law Lounge. Reefer and jazz have long gone hand-in-hand, as Ruffins puts it, and his sets often include a couple of \u201creefer songs,\u201d like <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.celebstoner.com\/high-tunes\/misc\/2020\/03\/12\/jazz-reefer-song-if-you-a-viper\/\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cIf You\u2019re a Viper,\u201d<\/a> first recorded in 1936, and his own \u201cHide the Reefer,\u201d written about a neighborhood wanderer who often got too enthusiastic with Ruffins\u2019 joints.<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/ruffinsbbq\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\">Ruffins<\/a> grew up in the Lower 9th Ward and attended Joseph S. Clark Sr. High School in Treme, where he co-founded the <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/rebirthbrassband.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Rebirth Brass Band<\/a> in the early-\u201980s. During Ruffins\u2019 years with Rebirth, promoter and Jazz Fest co-founder <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jazzandheritage.org\/allison-miner-a-community-activist-and-archivist-legacy\/\" target=\"_blank\">Allison Miner<\/a>, who managed the band, gave the trumpeter a copy of \u201cReefer Songs,\u201d <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.discogs.com\/release\/939739-Various-Reefer-Songs?srsltid=AfmBOor6LW_MRumY61s2WmRiXLxcOhtb8acG7sEYcWITxZ16NX7NMr_b\" target=\"_blank\">a compilation<\/a> of music from the \u201920s to the \u201940s mostly focused on cannabis \u2014 among other illicit substances. With songs like \u201cIf You\u2019re a Viper,\u201d \u201cAll the Jive is Gone\u201d and \u201cReefer Man,\u201d the album left a lasting impact on his music, Ruffins says.<\/p>\n<p>Gambit spoke with Ruffins about reefer, writing \u201cHide the Reefer\u201d and his thoughts on cannabis becoming more popular. An edited transcript of the conversation follows.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gambit: Could you tell us about \u201cHide the Reefer\u201d? When did you write the song?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kermit Ruffins:<\/strong> There was a guy that was in the service, he was a veteran, and he was the guy that walked through the neighborhood. I think he was homeless and was a little schizophrenic, and his name was Creeper. Everybody called him Creeper.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d be standing on the corner, smoking reefer in front of Joe\u2019s Cozy Corner, and every time he passed, he\u2019d be like, \u201cHey you, Kermit, let me hit the weed.\u201d I would just give him the whole joint because we would slobber all over it. Then one day, I\u2019m standing on the corner and thought, \u201cHide the reefer. Here come the Creeper.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It was time for me to write some songs, and I normally write my songs maybe a week before the recording because I get real motivated when it\u2019s time to go in. But I ride around with a tape recorder in my truck, and I started singing \u201cHide the reefer. Here come the Creeper.\u201d That\u2019s how it came about.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jeg_video_container jeg_video_content\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Kermit Ruffins- Hide the Reefer From Live at Vaughan&#039;s\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/r6j9f9mCWk0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><strong>Gambit: Do you know if he ever heard the song?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> Oh, he definitely heard it because I would pull up in my truck and all the guys would gather on the corner. This was Treme. And I would <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/music.apple.com\/us\/album\/swing-this\/265040667\" target=\"_blank\">blast my CD<\/a> all the time. I wanted the neighborhood to hear it. When I get the rough copy from the studio, I would go on a drive and study and listen to it, \u2018cause I would go back and rethink things. So yes, he definitely heard it \u2014 and he always said, \u201cKermit, where\u2019s my royalty?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gambit: I was reading you had a CD called \u201cReefer Songs\u201d that you would listen to a lot when Rebirth was out on tour. Could you tell me about that album?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> Oh yeah, that\u2019s right. Thanks to Allison Miner. Allison was our manager for Rebirth, and she gave me two CDs before she passed (in 1995). She gave me the CD with nothing but reefer songs, and the other one was Eddie Jefferson. And those kind of molded me, between those two CDs and all of Louis Armstrong\u2019s work. I think I covered a lot of them too. It was maybe 15 songs.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gambit: When were you introduced to reefer?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> I think I was in high school. I could remember coming from the Lower 9th Ward, and I would get on the St. Claude bus to go to (Joseph S.) Clark Sr. High School, which is in the heart of the Treme. I would get off the bus and walk down Esplanade to the high school, and I\u2019m getting off the bus and I\u2019m lighting up a reefer before the first class, which was algebra. I think I was maybe in 11th grade \u2014 I probably was smoking before then. I had to be right around 16.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jeg_video_container jeg_video_content\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"KERMIT RUFFINS - &quot;If You&#039;re A Viper&quot; - (Live at Kermit&#039;s Treme Speakeasy) #JAMINTHEVAN\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/PP21_SQO43k?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><strong>Gambit: Was it essentially anything you could just get your hands on or did you have anybody that kind of hooked you up?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> I\u2019m not quite sure that I had a connection, but that stuff wasn\u2019t nothing. Until we went to New York the first time. This was in the \u201980s, when I met <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.santacruzsentinel.com\/obituaries\/daniel-untermyer\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dan Untermyer<\/a>, Ice Cube Slim. He managed the Rebirth, and he was coming in from Santa Cruz, California, where he\u2019s from. He took us all over the world. But as soon as we landed in New York, I can remember him reaching in the bag and putting a whole bunch of reefer on the table for the Rebirth, and we never had nothing like that. Best reefer in the world. No seeds, real sticky, beautiful, shiny. You can tell it came from Planet Earth.<\/p>\n<p>We had been smoking brown stuff, but all of a sudden, we saw something real green. We couldn\u2019t understand it for a second.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gambit: How did you see the audiences react to your reefer songs?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> I started playing at Vaughan\u2019s, and before you know it, I had all the Tulane and Loyola students following me everywhere like crazy because I was singing about marijuana. They were just waiting for me to start singing, \u201cI dreamed about a reefer five feet long\u201d (the song \u201cIf You\u2019re a Viper\u201d). Before you know it, all those guys \u2014 they were probably super rich \u2014 started giving us reefer all the time. I guess the students had a damn good connection.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of times, people give me reefer, and I\u2019ll give it away. I don\u2019t like reefer that\u2019s already rolled. Now if they gave me a bag of reefer, that\u2019s different. But a lot of times, they\u2019ll come up with a bunch of pre-roll stuff that they buy from California or Colorado, and sometimes I\u2019ll smoke it and sometimes I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t smoke like I used to because it\u2019s so good in today\u2019s world. You don\u2019t need a lot of it no more. Back in the days, you\u2019d smoke all day long and nothing would happen because it wasn\u2019t good weed.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gambit: Out of curiosity, have you grown your own weed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> I have had one plant in my whole lifetime, and it came out horrible. The guy just gave it to me for my birthday, and it was a little small plant. It attracts certain bugs that if you\u2019re not aware of \u2014 these little green bugs were all over the place, just eating it up, and I really didn\u2019t know how to care for it. But I did smoke a little bit of it, and it was pretty good.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gambit: These days, are you still a consistent smoker? Or have you slowed down a little bit?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> It\u2019s damn sure every day. It might be about 10 hits a day, because I have this little bitty pipe. I have a bunch of bongs, though, so whatever I feel like that day.<\/p>\n<div class=\"inline-asset inline-image layout-horizontal  subscriber-hide  tnt-inline-asset tnt-inline-relcontent tnt-inline-image tnt-inline-relation-child tnt-inline-presentation-default tnt-inline-alignment-default tnt-inline-width-default\">\n<figure class=\"photo layout-horizontal hover-expand letterbox-style-default\"><span class=\"expand hidden-print\" data-toggle=\"modal\" data-photo-target=\".photo-7d30371e-affa-4ad7-b4b0-70364f7804c3\" data-instance=\"#gallery-items-a0109b25-cef9-4e5d-9115-2f3b991cf882-photo-modal\" data-target=\"#photo-carousel-a0109b25-cef9-4e5d-9115-2f3b991cf882\"><br \/>\n                <span class=\"fas tnt-expand\"\/><br \/>\n            <\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"image\" data-toggle=\"modal\" data-photo-target=\".photo-7d30371e-affa-4ad7-b4b0-70364f7804c3\" data-instance=\"#gallery-items-a0109b25-cef9-4e5d-9115-2f3b991cf882-photo-modal\" data-target=\"#photo-carousel-a0109b25-cef9-4e5d-9115-2f3b991cf882\">\n<div itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\">\n            <meta itemprop=\"width\" content=\"1763\"\/><br \/>\n            <meta itemprop=\"height\" content=\"1175\"\/><br \/>\n            <meta itemprop=\"contentUrl\" content=\"https:\/\/bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com\/nola.com\/content\/tncms\/assets\/v3\/editorial\/7\/d3\/7d30371e-affa-4ad7-b4b0-70364f7804c3\/6930ab65dbfca.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800\"\/><br \/>\n            <meta itemprop=\"url\" content=\"https:\/\/bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com\/nola.com\/content\/tncms\/assets\/v3\/editorial\/7\/d3\/7d30371e-affa-4ad7-b4b0-70364f7804c3\/6930ab65dbfca.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800\"\/><br \/>\n                        \n            <\/div><\/div><figcaption class=\"caption\">\n<p>                                <span class=\"caption-text\"><\/p>\n<p>Kermit Ruffins<\/p>\n<p>                                <\/span><\/p>\n<p>                                <span class=\"credit\"><br \/>\n                                    <span itemprop=\"author\" class=\"tnt-byline\">Photo by Maddie Spinner \/ Gambit<\/span><br \/>\n                                <\/span><\/p>\n<p>                        <span class=\"clearfix\"\/><br \/>\n                    <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Gambit: That was my next question. What\u2019s your preferred method? Do you like a pipe or joints, vaping or anything like that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> The main thing I have is a one-hitter. And I love the bong. Love them to death. I have some huge, huge bongs, and I got some pocket-sized bongs. Some regular sized glass pipes. Just scattered throughout the bar. They\u2019re sitting on display, too.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve dropped a few of them, too. I had one made like a machine gun, and it fell right off the edge of the bar.<\/p>\n<p>Most people try to do [a bong] too hard. But every time I smoke anything I do it with a lot of ease. That way I\u2019m not choking or getting too stoned. Make sure I take it real, real easy.<\/p>\n<p>I used to smoke joints, too, but it was probably about four years ago since I last smoked one. I don\u2019t like the taste of the paper. It\u2019s too harsh. You put it in a cigar or paper, it has too much of an effect on the joint.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jeg_video_container jeg_video_content\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Kermit Ruffins &amp; the BBQ Swingers: &quot;Marie&quot; - Live from Mother-in-law Lounge (2015)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/E1gVOmRW4Bk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><strong>Gambit: How do you feel about edibles? Have you checked out these THC seltzers that have been coming out?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> Nah, I don\u2019t. But years ago, I used to chop reefer up real fine, cook it on the stove with butter, real, real slow and pour it into a brownie and pass them out at football games I\u2019d host at the bar or my house. But one time I was shooting a scene on \u201cTreme,\u201d and I ate about two brownies not realizing what it could do. I was playing a DJ in a scene, and I couldn\u2019t drive home. I had to call someone to come get me. So I left edibles alone. I learned my lesson the hard way. The room was spinning.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gambit: Reefer has had a long history in the jazz community. Do you have any thoughts about why jazz and reefer have had this close relationship? Is there a particular reason for that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good question. When the red light district (Storyville) was there, I\u2019m quite sure that reefer had a lot to do with the birth of jazz. I think it goes hand-in-hand.<\/p>\n<p>It changed the music. I think when all those cats started smoking \u2014 actually probably already smoking, especially up North, because Louis (Armstrong) said when he got to Chicago, and they hand him this good reefer and said \u201cMan, put that stuff down. That\u2019s not the good stuff at all. Here\u2019s what you want to smoke.\u201d We didn\u2019t have [good stuff] down South.<\/p>\n<div class=\"inline-asset inline-article  subscriber-hide tnt-inline-asset tnt-inline-relcontent tnt-inline-article tnt-inline-relation-sibling tnt-inline-presentation-summary tnt-inline-alignment-default tnt-inline-width-default\">\n<article id=\"card-summary-9ee32890-4c04-46c0-b4ea-ef5f8cc4d806\" class=\"tnt-asset-type-article clearfix card summary has-image  letterbox-style-default  tnt-section-gambit tnt-sub-section-music\">\n<div class=\"card-container\">\n<div class=\"card-body\">\n<div class=\"card-lead\">\n<p class=\"tnt-summary\">Darryl &#8216;Big Man&#8217; Howard tells Gambit about starting PxMxWx, recording with Cash Money and making weed rap in New Orleans.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Gambit: Do you think there\u2019s some connection to helping relax and prompt creativity?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> I\u2019m quite sure it does. But I think it\u2019s different strokes for different folks because some of the best trumpet players I know don\u2019t even smoke.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gambit: Are you a little surprised it\u2019s easier to get reefer these days or that it\u2019s becoming more mainstream?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruffins:<\/strong> Yeah. I\u2019m grateful, that\u2019s for sure. I went to jail for reefer, maybe four times. I remember one time I had to stop smoking for six months and go pee in a cup and pay a fine every Friday. The craziest part is that during that time, we had a tour in California for about a month, the Rebirth. And all the guys in the car smoking, and I\u2019m trying to hit a little cigar, trying to feel a little something. That was the worst six months of my life.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m thinking about suing the city in today\u2019s world [laughs]. I gotta figure out a way to get some compensation for what they did to me behind one joint. Now we can smoke in front of the police on Bourbon Street.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m always dreaming about opening up a shop and calling it Ruffin\u2019 Puff. I better hurry up and patent it. I\u2019ve been digging into it. The first thing I\u2019ve got to do is find a grower, somebody I can buy from.<\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<div class=\"inline-asset inline-article  subscriber-hide tnt-inline-asset tnt-inline-relcontent tnt-inline-article tnt-inline-relation-sibling tnt-inline-presentation-summary tnt-inline-alignment-default tnt-inline-width-default\">\n<article id=\"card-summary-73025ecc-e3d0-4666-b564-42cd65e61a78\" class=\"tnt-asset-type-article clearfix card summary has-image  letterbox-style-default  tnt-section-gambit tnt-sub-section-news tnt-sub-section-the-latest\">\n<div class=\"card-container\">\n<div class=\"card-body\">\n<div class=\"card-lead\">\n<p class=\"tnt-summary\">Given how pervasive cannabis is in New Orleans, it can sometimes be hard to believe the city was once at the forefront of efforts to make mari\u2026<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source bestofneworleans.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>New Orleans trumpeter and vocalist Kermit Ruffins put it succinctly during a 2011 interview with cannabis magazine High Times: \u201cI need two things to have a perfect show: reefer and people.\u201d Ruffins\u2019 affection for reefer \u2014 his preferred term for cannabis \u2014 is well known among locals who might catch sight of a stray pipe [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2190233,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"jnews-multi-image_gallery":[],"jnews_single_post":[],"jnews_primary_category":[],"jnews_social_meta":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[25179],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2190232","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-music"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/New-Orleans-Kermit-Ruffins-talks-cannabis-and-reefer-songs.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2190232","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2190232"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2190232\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2190234,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2190232\/revisions\/2190234"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2190233"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2190232"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2190232"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2190232"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}