{"id":2310501,"date":"2026-03-03T16:15:09","date_gmt":"2026-03-03T16:15:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2310501"},"modified":"2026-03-03T16:15:09","modified_gmt":"2026-03-03T16:15:09","slug":"michael-lynton-on-seth-rogen-the-studio-sony-hack-and-warner-bros","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/michael-lynton-on-seth-rogen-the-studio-sony-hack-and-warner-bros\/","title":{"rendered":"Michael Lynton on Seth Rogen, The Studio, Sony Hack and Warner Bros."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tFor many years, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/t\/michael-lynton\/\" id=\"auto-tag_michael-lynton_1\" data-tag=\"michael-lynton\">Michael Lynton<\/a> had absolutely no desire to revisit his decision to greenlight <em><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/t\/interview\/\" id=\"auto-tag_interview_1\" data-tag=\"interview\">The Interview<\/a><\/em>, or the devastating North Korean hack that followed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t\u201cI buried it all,\u201d says the former CEO of <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/t\/sony\/\" id=\"auto-tag_sony_1\" data-tag=\"sony\">Sony<\/a> Pictures Entertainment, \u201cthe anger, the embarrassment, the shame, the pain my family endured.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tThat is, until recently, when Lynton joined forces with longtime friend and former Treasury Department chief of staff Joshua Steiner to <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/movies\/movie-news\/sony-the-interview-mistake-obama-cyber-hack-1236511520\/\">write a book <\/a>about mistakes and what causes them. In Lynton\u2019s case, he\u2019d said \u201cyes\u201d on the spot to the 2014 <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/t\/seth-rogen\/\" id=\"auto-tag_seth-rogen_1\" data-tag=\"seth-rogen\">Seth Rogen<\/a> comedy about a group of journalists who make a screwball plan to assassinate the leader of North Korea because, as he writes in <em>From Mistakes to Meaning: Owning Your Past So It Doesn\u2019t Own You<\/em>, \u201cfor just a moment, I wanted to hang \u2014 as an equal \u2014 with the actors. I had grown tired of playing the responsible adult \u2014 of watching the party from the outside while I played Risk.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tIn the newly released book, Lynton, who left Sony in 2017 and now serves as the chairman of Snap Inc., details how that decision unleashed one of the worst cyberattacks in corporate history, and reveals what he has learned about himself in the years since. But it is not just his story. In fact, the book tackles mistakes made by other prominent names, from Joanna Coles to Malcolm Gladwell, and, as notably, why they occurred. Still, it is Lynton\u2019s decision to open up about the traumatic event for the first time that has Hollywood\u2019s attention. As he writes, even President Obama had asked: \u201cWhat were you thinking when you made killing the leader of a hostile foreign nation a plot point?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tLynton Zoomed in from his home in New York to discuss his steadfast commitment to releasing the film as well as his thoughts on the latest Rogen comedy, <em>The Studio<\/em>, the chilling production exodus from Los Angeles and the $111 billion mega-merger of Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Talk to me about your decision to write this book. This was a mistake that you buried for years, one that you didn\u2019t want to discuss with anyone, and then you write a book all about it and go on a press tour where you have to discuss nothing but.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tThe book is about more than just my mistake, but in my case, what happened was Josh Steiner, who\u2019s the co-author here, had the idea to write a book about mistakes. We\u2019ve known each other a long time. We\u2019ve been good friends for a while. And he said, \u201cLook, I know you have this mistake.\u201d At that point, it had happened, I don\u2019t know, five years prior. And he said, \u201cEvery time I try and introduce the subject to you, meaning, like, \u2018Do you want to talk about it?\u2019 you somehow deflect.\u201d And he was 100 percent right. This was a mistake \u2013 and the mistake is defined in the book as making the decision to go forward with <em>The Interview<\/em>, which [resulted in Sony getting] badly hacked. But you\u2019re right in saying that six months after the hack was over, I wanted this thing in a drawer, never to see it again.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>So, what changed?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tI realized when Josh said to me, \u201cLook, if we both opened up to one another about what our mistakes were and actually tried to understand why we caused them, why we don\u2019t want to deal with them and perhaps brought in a professional to help us [make sense of] this stuff, which we did with Alison Papadakis, who\u2019s a professor of psychology as Johns Hopkins, maybe we can get rid of this shame that we\u2019re both harboring.\u201d And we went through that process and you want to know something? It worked. It actually worked. It\u2019s something that I\u2019m absolutely willing to talk about and be open about in a way that I was not willing to do in the past. And that\u2019s a big relief for me.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>The book has been out in the world for about a week now. I\u2019m curious to hear what the most surprising feedback has been?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tI think a lot of it was surprising. Some of what was surprising, and maybe I shouldn\u2019t have been surprised, was how many people asked, \u201cWhy would you do this? Why would you be this honest? Why would you confess to all of this stuff?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>The insinuation there is that nobody out here in Hollywood wants to acknowledge their mistakes?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tYeah. And as we both know \u2013 and it\u2019s not just in Hollywood, although a lot of the response came out of Hollywood \u2013 it is not one\u2019s inclination or the go-to to say, \u201cI screwed up.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>No? I hadn\u2019t noticed\u2026\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tNo. (<em>Laughs<\/em>.) And I get that. Listen, I was a part of that community for a long time. And then the other thing is there were a lot of people who\u2019ve come forward to say, \u201cI felt very similarly.\u201d Meaning, I also had that feeling that I wanted to belong. I also feel like I was never really part of it. And that surprised me even more.\u00a0Again, maybe it shouldn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Have you heard from folks who were at Sony at the time or involved with the film itself?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tNot that many, to be honest. I mean, I\u2019ve spoken with Amy [Pascal, who was head of the studio at the time], but beyond that, not that many folks.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Seth Rogen <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/tv\/tv-features\/john-mulaney-adam-brody-comedy-actor-roundtable-1236261456\/\">recently told me <\/a>that the worst thing about the whole mess is that <em>The Interview<\/em> \u201cwas not viewed as a good movie.\u201d I\u2019m curious if that aspect of it ever tweaks you? You weren\u2019t fighting for <em>Schindler\u2019s List<\/em> or <em>Citizen Kane<\/em>\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tSo, a couple things around that. First of all, I would say that, after the fact, and Seth should be happy about this, and he probably sees more of it than I do, people at least come up to me and say, \u201cWhen I finally saw <em>The Interview<\/em>, it was hilarious and I really loved it.\u201d I\u2019ve not once had anybody say to me, \u201cYou want to know something? That movie wasn\u2019t funny.\u201d So, Seth made a funny movie, and in that respect, a good movie.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>I suspect he\u2019d be happy to hear that\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tBut Seth\u2019s made a lot of very good movies. I\u2019m sure this fits somewhere in the grouping, but I have no idea where. But the other part, which is an important part, is that Seth was very adamant about us getting the movie out, and we were very adamant about getting the movie out. We had our disagreements at the time, but, and I believe in this very, very strongly, once you make the decision as a company that you\u2019re going to release something, you don\u2019t get to pick and choose, \u201cOh, this one is excellent and therefore we\u2019re going to put it out\u201d or \u201cthat one isn\u2019t excellent,\u201d particularly when censorship is involved. If a third party, which is exactly what happened here, namely the government in North Korea, comes forward and says, \u201cWe don\u2019t want you to put this movie out,\u201d and they threaten you, you have to put the movie out at that point. You just have no choice in the matter. And sometimes it\u2019s around a really great work of art, although most of the time that\u2019s not the case, and sometimes it\u2019s just a funny movie like <em>The Interview<\/em>. But it\u2019s not about the movie, it\u2019s about the principle.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>I was surprised to hear you say in a previous interview that you and Seth didn\u2019t talk after everything went down, and I\u2019m curious why not? And in the process of writing and releasing this book, has anything changed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tYeah, I think we probably should talk. I admire what Seth does. I was irritated at the time because I felt that the employees of Sony should have been thanked [by him for working so hard to release the movie]. But part of the reason I suspect neither one of us did it, certainly why I didn\u2019t [reach out], is exactly what I was referring to earlier, which is when this thing was over, I didn\u2019t want to talk to anybody about it. And I didn\u2019t, including, by the way, to Amy Pascal. She and I remarked on that, that we\u2019d never really talked about it until recently.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tSo, I think it probably is a good time to come back together again with Seth and talk it through. He probably had his impressions of what went on. I know I had my impressions of what went on. I am glad that we finally got the movie out. I wish we had had it in more theaters but the big theater circuits weren\u2019t willing to take it at the time. But it\u2019s probably a good time now to talk about it, particularly because he\u2019s got this big television show, <em>The Studio<\/em>, and I\u2019ve put a few episodes on and some of it seems to borrow a little bit from that time.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/tv\/tv-features\/john-mulaney-adam-brody-comedy-actor-roundtable-1236261456\/\">Seth has said<\/a> it was the exposure to folks like you at the upper echelon during the whole <em>Interview<\/em> saga that inspired him to make <em>The Studio<\/em>.\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tThat makes sense. Because when we were talking about it and we were trying to edit the final scene and all the rest, there were a lot of conversations about how a studio operates and what our responsibilities are, and Seth had an opportunity to see that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Did you watch the show with a pit in your stomach? Perhaps you see a resemblance, if not to you, to the challenges of the role that you were in?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tAgain, I\u2019ve only seen a couple of the episodes. I\u2019m embarrassed to say I haven\u2019t seen it fully, maybe because up until recently, I didn\u2019t want to look back at that time. But what I\u2019ve seen does not make me uncomfortable.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Well, good.<\/strong> <strong>A lot of people who work in this industry will tell you they have to watch the show through their fingers because it can be very unnerving to see their behaviors reflected back\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tIn the two episodes that I watched, while they weren\u2019t entirely realistic, because obviously it\u2019s satire, so it\u2019s taken to a different level, it\u2019s very realistic. Tonally, it\u2019s spot on.<em> Spot on<\/em>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Back to this mistake, as you call it. What would you have done differently? Is it as simple as, you wouldn\u2019t have gone to the table read?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tI think the mistake was that we had, as a lot of people at various studios have, a real process for green-lighting movies. You typically get a group of people around the table, and they represent the different components of a picture: finance, marketing, creative, everything else. You deliberate and you come out with a decision. Here, because it was in a competitive situation [with Universal] and we had to make the decision in the moment, and a lot of people other than me were already decided on making the movie, including Amy, it all came down to that minute and I made the decision in the moment. I think one of the lessons of the book to me, and what I might\u2019ve done differently, is try to understand what you\u2019re feeling in the context of that moment. Had I properly understood that I had been in the job then for over 10 years and I was a little tired of being the suit, the person in the room who was Mr. No, I would\u2019ve perhaps said, \u201cOkay, fine, let\u2019s kick this to an afternoon conversation where we bring that group of people together [and then make a decision].\u201d But I didn\u2019t, and obviously that was a mistake.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>That idea that you\u2019d grown tired of being the guy who says \u201cno\u201d struck me as deeply sad. When did that become the job?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tI don\u2019t know. I came to the industry at a certain moment in time, but I\u2019ve talked to people who are 20 years my senior, who have been around a lot longer than I have and have been much more successful than I have, and those people, to a person, pretty much say, \u201cIf you\u2019re not saying no the vast majority of the time, you\u2019re not doing your job.\u201d And many went a step further to say, \u201cAnd once you say no, if they don\u2019t come back three or four times and persist, then you realize, whether it\u2019s internal to the studio or external to the filmmakers, you\u2019re not really doing your job to test the mettle and the desire of the folks.\u201d So, I think it\u2019s been around for a while \u2013 at least since we\u2019ve had the modern studio system, which you could date to the \u201880s really.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>We\u2019re sitting here just a few days after it became official: Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery are set to merge. What do you think the larger industry impact will be, and should this town be as scared as it seemingly is?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tFrom an industry perspective, I understand why it\u2019s scary. I understand why people inherently don\u2019t like change. I do think the theatrical window is going to become much more of a luxury item going forward, and that\u2019s problematic for people. But I think the biggest thing that\u2019s nervous-making, I would imagine, is the lack of production going on in Southern California. What\u2019s going on in LA now is deeply concerning.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>You recently called L.A. a \u201csunny version of Detroit.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tYes. I was out there in the fall for a little bit and went to a couple of studios for lunch. It was crickets. There\u2019s nothing going on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>I\u2019ll admit, hearing it described that way was chilling\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tIt\u2019s scary because it\u2019s the second largest city in America and we don\u2019t want it to fail. And I don\u2019t think it has to. I think there are ways to try and bring it back, but I do think maybe it\u2019s a good idea that people are made nervous by me saying it\u2019s the sunny version of Detroit. And listen, I don\u2019t want Detroit to become the whipping boy in all of this, but we do know what Detroit looked like when it went through that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>So, what needs to happen to avoid that outcome?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tI think there needs to be a financial incentive for the industry to stay, and the incentives have to go beyond just tax incentives. I think there\u2019s some of the union stuff that has to be dealt with as well. By way of example, if you compose and record outside the United States, there\u2019s a different set of financials to what you do inside the United States. I think the industry will really have to look at itself and understand how can you set it up differently so that you can bring [production] back to Southern California. And there\u2019s probably a way to do it, but I think action needs to be taken proactively.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>I\u2019m curious, what do you miss most and least about being in that top job?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tI love the people I worked with. I really enjoyed the folks at Sony, and I liked working with the community in general. And it was both highs and lows, stuff worked and stuff didn\u2019t work, but I loved it, and I still do watch a lot of movies and television. And I actually like the community aspect there, too, despite the fact that, as I learned, it\u2019s a little bit of a false community and they\u2019re not always there when you need them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>I suspect your phone doesn\u2019t ring as often once you\u2019re not in that job, which can be jarring.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tYes. You rent the seat, 100 percent. I think the part that I don\u2019t miss is the ego and the upset and the emotionally charged conversations that I\u2019m happy to be doing without \u2013 or doing less of, I should say.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\t<strong>Anything else you want to add before signing off?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/  a-font-body-m     \">\n\tJust that the point of the book is that the idea of exploring one\u2019s mistakes, while not something that you\u2019d naturally go to, turns out to be a very good idea. And the book is helpful to do that. Because everyone has a mistake. You do too, I\u2019m sure.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.hollywoodreporter.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For many years, Michael Lynton had absolutely no desire to revisit his decision to greenlight The Interview, or the devastating North Korean hack that followed. \u201cI buried it all,\u201d says the former CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment, \u201cthe anger, the embarrassment, the shame, the pain my family endured.\u201d That is, until recently, when Lynton joined [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2310502,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"jnews-multi-image_gallery":[],"jnews_single_post":[],"jnews_primary_category":[],"jnews_social_meta":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[25172],"tags":[447603,311180,307149,447604,447605],"class_list":["post-2310501","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-entertainment","tag-michael-lynton","tag-seth-rogen","tag-sony","tag-sony-hack","tag-the-interview"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/Michael-Lynton-on-Seth-Rogen-The-Studio-Sony-Hack-and.jpeg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2310501","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2310501"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2310501\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2310503,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2310501\/revisions\/2310503"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2310502"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2310501"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2310501"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2310501"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}