{"id":2357757,"date":"2026-04-03T23:48:00","date_gmt":"2026-04-03T23:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2357757"},"modified":"2026-04-03T23:48:00","modified_gmt":"2026-04-03T23:48:00","slug":"i-wanna-write-lyrics-that-have-real-weight-in-real-life-experience-i-dont-wanna-write-about-still-dyeing-my-hair-black-members-of-influential-bands-crowbar-and-type-o-negative-unite-in","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/i-wanna-write-lyrics-that-have-real-weight-in-real-life-experience-i-dont-wanna-write-about-still-dyeing-my-hair-black-members-of-influential-bands-crowbar-and-type-o-negative-unite-in\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;I wanna write lyrics that have real weight in real life experience. I don\u2019t wanna write about still dyeing my hair black!&#8221; Members of influential bands Crowbar and Type O Negative unite in dour new supergroup Sun Don&#8217;t Shine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div id=\"article-body\">\n<p id=\"elk-76efbf4d-7fd2-4f19-8567-7aaadfc5951f\">If you&#8217;re a fan of the heaviest and gloomiest riffs, particularly those that rained down in the 1990s, there\u2019s no way the idea of Sun Don\u2019t Shine won\u2019t have you dribbling.<\/p>\n<p>A meeting of minds, featuring half of New York <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/10-essential-goth-metal-albums\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/10-essential-goth-metal-albums\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/10-essential-goth-metal-albums\">goth metal<\/a> titans <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/every-type-o-negative-album-ranked-from-worst-to-best\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/every-type-o-negative-album-ranked-from-worst-to-best\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/every-type-o-negative-album-ranked-from-worst-to-best\">Type O Negative<\/a> (guitarist\/vocalist Kenny Hickey and drummer Johnny Kelly) and half the classic 90s line-up of New Orleans sludge gods Crowbar (guitarist\/vocalist Kirk Windstein and bassist Todd Strange), this is a doom supergroup for the ages. And, in a bizarre sort of way, it was actually funded into being by a fan with a dream.<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" id=\"elk-seasonal\"\/><\/p>\n<aside data-block-type=\"embed\" data-render-type=\"fte\" data-skip=\"dealsy\" data-widget-type=\"seasonal\" class=\"hawk-root\"\/>\n<p id=\"elk-76efbf4d-7fd2-4f19-8567-7aaadfc5951f-2\">\u201cKirk and I have a mutual friend, Andrew Spaulding, who runs Corpse Paint Records,\u201d Kenny reveals about this dynamo team-up\u2019s origin story. \u201cHe was Type O\u2019s merch guy some 20 years ago, and was always going on about wanting to put us in a room together. So he saved up some money, put us all on a plane together, and it was just an experiment to see what came out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"article-continues-below block py-2 text-sm\">Article continues below <svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"inline-block w-2.5 h-2.5 ml-2\" fill=\"currentColor\" preserveaspectratio=\"xMidYMid meet\" viewbox=\"0 0 1000 1000\"><path d=\"M1000 100L500 900 0 100h1000z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/p>\n<aside data-component-name=\"Recirculation:ArticleRiver\" data-recirculation-type=\"inline\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Trending Bar\" data-nosnippet=\"\" class=\"clear-both pb-0 pt-2 mb-4\">\n        <span class=\"&#10;            flex&#10;            after:content-[''] after:flex-1 after:ml-4 after:my-[0.7rem] after:border-t after:border-solid after:border-t-[#ccc]&#10;            before:content-[''] before:flex-1 before:mr-4 before:my-[0.7rem] before:border-t before:border-solid before:border-t-[#ccc]&#10;            font-article-heading pb-0 !text-base uppercase sm:text-sm font-bold&#10;        \"><br \/>\n            You may like<br \/>\n        <\/span><\/p>\n<\/aside>\n<p>Initially formed as EYE AM, Sun Don\u2019t Shine developed through a series of sessions captured on debut album <em>Birth To Death<\/em>. Their music delivers on the kind of Sabbathy goodness you\u2019d hope for from these two pairs, but, Kenny is keen to assert, it\u2019s actually brighter and has more room to breathe than the bands you might know its members for.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cKirk and I talked about this before we even got together, that we didn\u2019t want this to sound like our other projects,\u201d Kenny explains.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t wanna be afraid to lighten up the music when it\u2019s right. The template would be Led Zeppelin, where Zeppelin could be the most beautiful acoustic thing, and then bring the heaviest and most driving dark part. 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In the scheme of things, <em>Birth To Death<\/em> is still bloody dark. Looking back on self-destructive habits and pondering mortality, it\u2019s a reflective record that feels like the kind of thing they couldn\u2019t have made as younger men.<\/p>\n<div id=\"slice-container-newsletterForm-articleInbodyContent-F36tpvq2EdbtQ6aeA8VT4J\" class=\"slice-container newsletter-inbodyContent-slice newsletterForm-articleInbodyContent-F36tpvq2EdbtQ6aeA8VT4J slice-container-newsletterForm\">\n<div data-hydrate=\"true\" class=\"newsletter-form__wrapper newsletter-form__wrapper--inbodyContent\">\n<div class=\"newsletter-form__container\">\n<section class=\"newsletter-form__top-bar\"\/>\n<section class=\"newsletter-form__main-section\">\n<p class=\"newsletter-form__strapline\">Sign up below to get the latest from Metal Hammer, plus exclusive special offers, direct to your inbox!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u201cThey\u2019re maturing subjects, definitely,\u201d muses Kenny. \u201cI\u2019m more concerned with legacy now and what I\u2019m gonna leave behind. I wanna write lyrics that have real weight in real life experience. I don\u2019t wanna write about still dyeing my hair black!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a cheeky reference to Type O hit <em>Black No.1<\/em>, and Kenny admits his headspace has changed since the 90s.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen Type O started, we all thought, \u2018This band is gonna be fly-by-night, it\u2019ll be over next year.\u2019 Everything was, \u2018Fuck it!\u2019, not realising that 30-plus years later, people are still playing that stuff,\u201d he marvels.<\/p>\n<aside data-component-name=\"Recirculation:ArticleRiver\" data-recirculation-type=\"inline\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Trending Bar\" data-nosnippet=\"\" class=\"clear-both pb-0 pt-2 mb-4\">\n        <span class=\"&#10;            flex&#10;            after:content-[''] after:flex-1 after:ml-4 after:my-[0.7rem] after:border-t after:border-solid after:border-t-[#ccc]&#10;            before:content-[''] before:flex-1 before:mr-4 before:my-[0.7rem] before:border-t before:border-solid before:border-t-[#ccc]&#10;            font-article-heading pb-0 !text-base uppercase sm:text-sm font-bold&#10;        \"><br \/>\n            What to read next<br \/>\n        <\/span><\/p>\n<\/aside>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s a quote from Ace Frehley, where somebody said to him that he influenced so many guitarists, and he says, \u2018I get that a lot, and if I knew that was gonna happen I would\u2019ve practised a lot more!\u2019 So now I try and do things as best I can, every time I sit down.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The weight of experience is a thread that seems to connect Sun Don\u2019t Shine\u2019s two camps, with both the scenes and the cities they came from \u2013 New York and New Orleans \u2013 having suffered and survived their fair share of loss and strife.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEven though you could hardly get farther south or north, there\u2019s similarities in the culture between New Orleans people and especially Brooklyn people,\u201d Kenny considers. \u201cThey\u2019re very personable, they\u2019re very in-your-face, and they\u2019re loud and you know what you get with them, no bullshit.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It doesn\u2019t hurt that Kirk has been more than complimentary over the years about the impact of Type O (and frontman Peter Steele\u2019s pre-Type O band, Carnivore) on the NOLA sludge sound. So there\u2019s a sense of things coming full circle as these kindred spirits unite in Sun Don\u2019t Shine.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe both toured with Pantera in the 90s, and Kirk was the first person I met from that whole camp, because he was a Carnivore fan, so it goes way back,\u201d Kenny agrees. \u201cI love <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/the-10-essential-sludge-metal-albums\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/the-10-essential-sludge-metal-albums\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/the-10-essential-sludge-metal-albums\">sludge metal<\/a>, still today, and we have the same tastes. And Kirk and Todd are creative forces; if you need a riff right now, Kirk will go in the corner and boom, a riff comes out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Kenny also has a new Silvertomb album coming later this year \u2013 which he promises will be \u201creally dreary\u201d \u2013 adding to the impressive discography he\u2019s built since the dissolution of Type Of Negative in 2010.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think I was preparing myself to have to do something different, because both Peter and I, we didn\u2019t know when we were gonna be dead,\u201d says Kenny. \u201cJosh [Silver, keyboardist] certainly was \u2013 he got his whole degree and became an EMT. You always had the sense in Type O that this was gonna be over any minute.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As fatalistic as that may seem, it\u2019s an approach that ended up giving Kenny an unlikely sense of optimism.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve come to terms with the fact that there\u2019s not really a choice for me. I\u2019ve realised now it\u2019s not about those two or three hit songs that are your most well-known to the general public, it\u2019s about a body of work,\u201d Kenny explains.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhatever the people wanna do with it is not in your control, but it\u2019s your job to build the best, most comprehensive body of work you possibly can. That\u2019s my goal and that\u2019s what I\u2019m gonna do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Birth To Death is out now via Corpse Paint Records<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" id=\"elk-6c261a66-3518-4bea-8ccd-5c728ae706b4\"\/><iframe allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" height=\"352\" width=\"100%\" id=\"\" style=\"border-radius:12px\" class=\"position-center\" data-lazy-priority=\"low\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/album\/6DHuHZ183QbuaRv7gYBKnY?utm_source=generator\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.loudersound.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;re a fan of the heaviest and gloomiest riffs, particularly those that rained down in the 1990s, there\u2019s no way the idea of Sun Don\u2019t Shine won\u2019t have you dribbling. 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