{"id":2375591,"date":"2026-04-16T07:06:11","date_gmt":"2026-04-16T07:06:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2375591"},"modified":"2026-04-16T07:06:11","modified_gmt":"2026-04-16T07:06:11","slug":"conflating-new-order-and-joy-division-is-an-affront-to-british-music-history","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/conflating-new-order-and-joy-division-is-an-affront-to-british-music-history\/","title":{"rendered":"Conflating New Order and Joy Division is an affront to British music history"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div data-test=\"article-body-text\">\n<p>Putting them together is rather like sticking Blur and Gorillaz or the Sex Pistols and Public Image Ltd on the same Hall of Fame ticket. Yes, both have connecting threads in Damon Albarn and <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"ck-custom-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/music\/news\/john-lydon-at-70\/\">John Lydon<\/a> respectively. But musically, Blur\u2019s chirpy Britpop and Gorillaz\u2019 cartoon hip-hop are miles apart. Ditto the Pistols\u2019 snarly punk and PiL\u2019s dubby experimentalism.<\/p>\n<p>There is some precedent for \u201cband lumping\u201d in the Hall of Fame. In 2012, the Small Faces were inducted together with the Faces, even though the former were mods who melded poppy R&amp;B with psychedelia and the latter played raucous bar-room rock. The connecting threads here? Both bands shared three (non-singing) members: Ronnie Lane, Kenney Jones and Ian McLagan.<\/p>\n<p>But by this logic, Nirvana and the Foo Fighters should have been inducted together because both include Dave Grohl and Nirvana touring member Pat Smear. Yet they\u2019re separate inductees. And what about Santana and Journey? Journey\u2019s vocalist Gregg Rolie and its lead guitarist Neal Schon formed the group in 1973 after splintering from Santana. But, again, the two bands are separate Hall of Fame entities.<\/p>\n<p>One can conclude that the Hall of Fame, with its boomer voters and preference for American classic rock, simply doesn\u2019t understand what makes such quintessentially British (and northern, at that) bands so special \u2013 or singular.<\/p>\n<p>Still, being included is better than not being included. New Order are apparently, and rightly, thrilled with the honour. As Sumner sang on <em>True Faith<\/em>, \u201cI used to think that the day would never come.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.telegraph.co.uk \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Putting them together is rather like sticking Blur and Gorillaz or the Sex Pistols and Public Image Ltd on the same Hall of Fame ticket. Yes, both have connecting threads in Damon Albarn and John Lydon respectively. But musically, Blur\u2019s chirpy Britpop and Gorillaz\u2019 cartoon hip-hop are miles apart. Ditto the Pistols\u2019 snarly punk and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2375592,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"jnews-multi-image_gallery":[],"jnews_single_post":[],"jnews_primary_category":[],"jnews_social_meta":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[25179],"tags":[394344,22221,21800,305289,22366,345946,382398],"class_list":["post-2375591","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-music","tag-comment","tag-culture","tag-music","tag-oasis","tag-rock-music","tag-top-story","tag-us-content"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Conflating-New-Order-and-Joy-Division-is-an-affront-to.jpeg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2375591","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2375591"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2375591\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2375593,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2375591\/revisions\/2375593"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2375592"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2375591"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2375591"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2375591"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}