{"id":2376248,"date":"2026-04-16T16:44:11","date_gmt":"2026-04-16T16:44:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2376248"},"modified":"2026-04-16T16:44:11","modified_gmt":"2026-04-16T16:44:11","slug":"human-leagues-philip-oakey-on-dont-you-want-me-new-wave-staying-power","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/human-leagues-philip-oakey-on-dont-you-want-me-new-wave-staying-power\/","title":{"rendered":"Human League&#8217;s Philip Oakey on Don&#8217;t You Want Me, New Wave Staying Power"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tThe New Wave era of spiky but danceable pop tunes and sharp colorful looks may feel like it happened a million years ago, but to everyone\u2019s surprise, the 45-year old musical movement has never really gone away. First popularized as MTV was becoming massively popular, 1980s music endured as the default upbeat soundtrack everywhere from your Trader Joe\u2019s store to shows and movies like<a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2022\/music\/news\/stranger-things-needle-drops-classic-songs-1235345247\/\"> \u201cStranger Things\u201d <\/a>and \u201cMarty Supreme.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tOne of the most prominent hitmakers of the era were <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/human-league\/\" id=\"auto-tag_human-league\" data-tag=\"human-league\">Human League<\/a> \u2014 one of the few bands to endure for more than four decades without massive fights, angst and breakups. The Human League got most of its turmoil over with right at the start, when two of the founding members of the Sheffield group left to form Heaven 17. Lead singer Philip Oakey stayed behind to cultivate a more pop-friendly sound, or as he describes it, \u201cchart records.\u201d After recruiting high school students Joanne Catherall and Susan Ann Sulley as vocalists, Human League started churning out hits and became one of the top synth-pop groups of the New Wave era \u2014 notably with the memorable 1981 No. 1 hit \u201cDon\u2019t You Want Me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tNow Human League is returning to the U.S. for its first full tour in over a decade, playing with the Marc Almond-led <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/t\/soft-cell\/\" id=\"auto-tag_soft-cell\" data-tag=\"soft-cell\">Soft Cell<\/a> and former Yaz frontwoman Alison Moyet (\u201cIs This Love,\u201d \u201cSituation\u201d). \u201cTainted Love\u201d artists Soft Cell have been touring the past few years with Philip Larsen filling in for Dave Ball, who <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/variety.com\/2025\/music\/news\/david-ball-tainted-love-soft-cell-dead-1236559733\/\">died in October<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tThe Generations Tour kicks off June 2 in San Diego and then hits the Hollywood Bowl on June 4. The last time Oakey and company were in L.A. was at 2023\u2019s Cruel World Festival, where lightning strikes forced them to evacuate the stage along with Siouxsie Sioux, who was playing on another stage at Pasadena\u2019s Brookside at the Rose Bowl.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tIt wasn\u2019t the first time sparks flew during a show with both Human League and Siouxsie, as Oakey tells it. The beer bottle-throwing aggression of the early punk scene \u201cwas an interesting cultural phenomenon, but I\u2019m glad it\u2019s gone away,\u201d he says now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\t<em>Variety<\/em> caught up with Oakey as he was getting ready to pack for the Generations tour, which will hit 21 cities total, including Las Vegas, Chicago, Nashville and New York after the Hollywood Bowl show.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\t<strong>The last time I saw you, your set was being cut short because of lightning.<\/strong>\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI remember that one.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tAnd you didn\u2019t get you didn\u2019t get to finish the set.\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tNo, that was a little bit annoying, but I guess safety comes first.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tThat was very sad that Soft Cell\u2019s Dave Ball died at just 66. Did you know him?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tWe had toured with him actually in one of his other groups, so we more or less knew him pretty well. I think Joanne and Susan had known him since before The Human League as well. Soft Cell were sort of started out in Leeds, which is the next big town along to ours, 30 miles away from here.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tWhat do you think it is about new wave music that has helped it endure for so long?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tThe only qualification we ever had for being in a group was that we really liked chart records. I wasn\u2019t a musician or anything. And maybe we sort of crystallized that. I think that after music had gone prog, I got a bit tired of it being overblown with things getting a bit symphonic and too long. And then there was the rebellion of punk which I really enjoyed and it inspired us to start. Our generation seemed to come along and say, \u201cActually we really like chart records that appeal to people, that get the job done in three or four minutes.\u201d The lyrics are quite honest and I think that served us well. Also the using new technology, using synthesizers made the vocals stand out.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tBringing Joanne and Susan into the group worked out so well, and it\u2019s amazing that they\u2019re still with you. What has that been like, having that kind of continuity?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tIt has given me a chance of solidity as a basis that I think I wouldn\u2019t have got any other way.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI think it was miraculous that we\u2019ve not only found each other, but our personalities were just exactly right to allow us to not ever permanently fall out. We still argue, we still have different views, but we concentrate on different areas. We have always got each other\u2019s backs.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tIs that true that \u201cDon\u2019t You Want Me\u201d was influenced by when you saw \u201cA Star Is Born,\u201d and that gave you an idea?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tAbsolutely. The James Mason version of \u201cA Star Is Born. I really like old films. So just that tension, but in Technicolor, that\u2019s my kind of thing.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tBut at first, you didn\u2019t think it was one of your stronger songs, right?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tWe were on a circuit with Joy Division and everything and we thought that our long term appeal would be a bit moodier than that. So when that song sort of formed itself, which is what they seem to do, I was a little bit shocked. As usual, the radio people called it right and we took the LP out to radio and they all said that\u2019s the single, release that, and being daft punks we took a while to realize that. I think Joanne and Susan knew straight away. They\u2019re cleverer than me anyway.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tSo many films and TV shows recently have been using music from the 80s, from \u201cMarty Supreme\u201d to \u201cStranger Things.\u201d Do you get many requests for your music in shows?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tWe do get a lot, more for \u201cDon\u2019t You Want Me\u201d than for anything else. And we try to be a bit careful not to overuse it. So if people just want it to sort of set their atmosphere, we say no. But I love the stuff in \u201cStranger Things.\u201d<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tI don\u2019t know if you saw \u201cMarty Supreme,\u201d but the use of Tears for Fears was excellent.\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI love Tears for Fears. I mean \u2014 that\u2019s a group who could make heavenly records.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tIs there any music you\u2019ve liked recently?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI try to keep up. I love Billie Eilish. I like The Weeknd. Little Dragon I was into, but maybe that\u2019s five years out of date now.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tYour last studio album, \u201cCredo,\u201d was released 15 years ago. Will there be another one?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI\u2019m pretty sure there will be the 10th Human League album at some stage. I\u2019ve got to say, I find the business less easy to understand than I did. It\u2019s hard to find a sympathetic producer. We have always been successful when we had a great producer. Four times in our careers people have come in with a clear view from outside and put us on the right path. And I think it\u2019s harder to find that now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tWe really enjoyed someone who would accept what you had done and perfect it, rather than really trying to change it.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tA lot of the really great albums of that time were really shaped by strong producers.\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI think that they have not had the appreciation they should. And I know we didn\u2019t say thank you enough. When a great producer walks in, suddenly everything changes. You often don\u2019t even know what they\u2019re doing, but the stuff gets better.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tDo you think it\u2019s still important for a band to have a distinctive visual style like Human League did? Do you go for a more subdued look now?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI\u2019m trying to un-subdue it really. I think that we\u2019re the torch bearers for glam. We were really a glam group. We love T Rex, we loved Roxy Music, David Bowie, Prince. We have got to go out and do as strong a look as ever, because Prince isn\u2019t around to do it anymore. Marc Bolan isn\u2019t here to do it. So I think we must do it. You know, even if people start throwing bottles, I will still be wearing the eyeliner .<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tDo you get together with Joanne and Susan beforehand and kind of decide what your look is going to be for the tour?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tWe don\u2019t really influence each other\u2019s look. But tomorrow we have to get together and put our clothes in a flight case for the tour. So now we have to go down to the studio, get the clothes rack out and I have to get out my high heels and make that decision.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tWhat was it like when you were first starting out, how crazy was the punk scene at the start?\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tThey were wild right at the beginning before we had any success really. We supported Siouxsie and the Banshees quite a lot. So at that stage you had to be a little bit careful. People would grab the microphone off you and that sort of thing. Before Joanne and Susan joined, we went over with Iggy Pop to Germany and people were throwing things all night. People would go and tear the fittings out of the bathrooms and throw them at the stage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tI mean, people were throwing full cans of beer at the stage and things. An interesting cultural phenomenon, but I\u2019m glad it went away now.<\/p>\n<h5 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-secondary-m   \">\n\t\tThank you, we look forward to seeing you in Hollywood!\t<\/h5>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto  lrv-a-font-body-m   \">\n\tCan\u2019t wait to be there. In fact, I\u2019m coming for a holiday before then. 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