{"id":2443589,"date":"2026-06-03T19:23:44","date_gmt":"2026-06-03T19:23:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/?p=2443589"},"modified":"2026-06-03T19:23:44","modified_gmt":"2026-06-03T19:23:44","slug":"deer-ticks-john-mccauley-on-going-to-rehab-making-new-album","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/en\/deer-ticks-john-mccauley-on-going-to-rehab-making-new-album\/","title":{"rendered":"Deer Tick&#8217;s John McCauley on Going to Rehab, Making New Album"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn August 2024, the band <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/deer-tick\/\" id=\"auto-tag_deer-tick\" data-tag=\"deer-tick\">Deer Tick<\/a> were out for an old-fashioned Italian dinner when the band\u2019s founder, John McCauley, began pitching his bandmates on his grand idea for their next album. He envisioned a record based on the <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-country\/how-deer-ticks-john-mccauley-finally-embraced-his-unpredictable-band-195995\/\">group\u2019s shared hometown<\/a> of Providence, Rhode Island, with every song set around the city, including, perhaps, the very restaurant at which they were dining, the Old Canteen, a mid-20th century red sauce spot that hosted everyone from Frank Sinatra to Providence\u2019s infamously mob-affiliated mayor Buddy Cianci.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cI remember John specifically saying, \u2018This is the assignment,\u2019\u201d recalls drummer Dennis Ryan, who was so inspired by the meeting that he went home and immediately finished a song called \u201c507 Smith.\u201d It was a fictionalized account of the time Ryan and McCauley lived together in a ramshackle house at that address. One lyric \u2014 \u201chave a fresh-picked strawberry\u201d \u2014 is taken from a time their disheveled and frequently inebriated roommate greeted Ryan\u2019s mom at the house by offering her some fruit growing in the side yard. \u201cJohn liked the line about the strawberries,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201c507 Smith\u201d is just one taste of the mix of hyper personal and distinctly fictional Providence-based storytelling on <em>Coin-O-Matic<\/em>, the album that resulted from McCauley\u2019s writing assignment. Out this Friday, it might be the most accomplished and fully realized record of Deer Tick\u2019s career. The album represents the foursome \u2014 McCauley, Ryan, guitarist Ian O\u2019Neil, bassist Chris Ryan (no relation to Dennis) \u2014 taking the reins of their future after suffering a series of challenges over 20-plus years together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThere was a rough tour following the pandemic, and a 2018 stint in rehab for McCauley, which he\u2019s never before discussed. It all forced the band to refocus on its long-term viability and, in short, grow up. The members are all men with families and children now and they set about to find new ways to communicate and conduct intra-band business (including, yes, Slack).<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ editors-pick-module lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cIt\u2019s such a fragile thing,\u201d Chris Ryan says. \u201cThere\u2019s no guarantee we can hang onto it, so it\u2019s up to us to do everything we can to make the most of the momentum, the success, and the reputation that we have to keep it going.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>John McCauley\u2019s train is<\/strong> <strong>late.<\/strong> He\u2019s decided to take the three-and-a-half hour Amtrak from Providence to New York, talk with <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> for an hour or so, then hop right back onto a train and head home. \u201cAnything to avoid a Zoom,\u201d says McCauley, who, before we even get to fully discussing the album he\u2019s currently promoting, tells me he\u2019s \u201chad enough screwdrivers on the Amtrak\u201d to reveal the title of what the <em>next<\/em> Deer Tick record might be.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cWe want to do a party record, recorded in New Orleans, Steve Berlin as producer, and we want to call it <em>A Thousand Beers Later<\/em>,\u201d he says. \u201cOn the cover will be us at an archaeological dig, dusting off all the bottles of beer. I got the whole concept.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThis, McCauley explains, is how pretty much all Deer Tick records have begun since 2014\u2019s <em>Negativity. <\/em>As Deer Tick\u2019s founder, McCauley has evolved into a role akin to quarterback: He calls the plays and conceptualizes each record by envisioning album artwork and then writing backward from that. Before he knew what any of the songs on the group\u2019s latest would be, he knew it would be called <em>Coin-O-Matic<\/em> and that its cover would depict the 20th-century tobacco vending-machine business that served as a front (and primary headquarters) for Providence\u2019s Patriarca mob family. Almost as if on cue, McCauley\u2019s cell rings with a call from his local city councilman. He ignores it. \u201cSee, I\u2019m getting into the Rhode Island thing!\u201d McCauley says. \u201cCouncilman Foley, how you doing!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn its earliest 2000s iterations, Deer Tick were generally composed of McCauley and whoever he found to play with. But the band\u2019s current four-piece lineup has been in place for a decade, and each member has been in the band for much longer than that. It may have taken 20 years, but McCauley seems prouder than ever to be in a collective with multiple singers and songwriters (all bandmates, apart from Chris Ryan, write and sing).\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tRelated Content<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<em>Coin-O-Matic<\/em> represents the full realization of McCauley\u2019s collaborative dream. The record was self-produced by the entire group but helmed largely by Dennis Ryan, who engineered the record and enlisted Chris to help build studio equipment. O\u2019Neil\u2019s songs (\u201cEverything Born,\u201d \u201cEndless Loop\u201d) form an important emotional backbone to the collection. The band has figured out how to flesh out one another\u2019s songs while giving the songwriter who first came up with the idea complete creative control over the composition. It\u2019s a hard-won balance that requires complete trust.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cWhen we were younger, we probably had a bigger ego about our individual songs,\u201d O\u2019Neil says. \u201cWe were still trying to prove ourselves to each other. When I was younger, I had a feeling of inadequacy when I was trying to write songs along with the main songwriter in the band.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tYears ago, long before their Italian feast at the Old Canteen, McCauley pitched the quartet on a concept record of songs that sound like they could be on the jukebox in a Seventies Mafia movie. <em>Coin-O-Matic<\/em> is not that, but it is a story about a city the four Providence natives worked on together for years. \u201cACI,\u201d McCauley\u2019s semi-fictional heartland rocker about a man locked up in Rhode Island state prison, started as a goofball soundcheck riff on Bruce Springsteen\u2019s \u201cGlory Days.\u201d (McCauley\u2019s father, a former state legislator who went to prison for tax evasion years ago, loved the song. \u201cWhen my dad heard it, he just started laughing his ass off,\u201d says McCauley.) \u201cDog Years\u201d is inspired by the senior living complex where McCauley\u2019s grandfather lived.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"jeg_video_container jeg_video_content\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Deer Tick - Dog Years live at Big Nice Studio\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XrWEW3W2twc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tMcCauley\u2019s songs in particular chronicle a city that\u2019s largely faded into memory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cI wanted to write a love letter to the Providence that doesn\u2019t really exist anymore, as complicated and illegal and, at times, violent, as it was, it was still, oddly, a place that I long to be again,\u201d he says. \u201cIt doesn\u2019t make a whole lot of sense to me why, but it would be nice to be transported back in time and just see it one more time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cEverything Born,\u201d meanwhile, by O\u2019Neil, is less about the past city the band no longer recognizes and more a reflection of fatherhood and family, albeit one living in the city\u2019s precious present.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cThis band, we spend a lot of time together, our kids play together,\u201d says O\u2019Neil. \u201cIt means a lot to show our children what we\u2019ve been able to accomplish against those odds, and against the slog, against some of the worst years and some of the better years. It\u2019s the proudest thing we\u2019ve ever achieved.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>It was at Deer Tick\u2019s recent\u00a0 21st birthday<\/strong> hometown show\u00a0 \u2014 with the bandmates\u2019 kids running around backstage \u2014 that McCauley realized how far the band had come from its <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-country\/deer-tick-bluesboy-video-mayonnaise-tour-786252\/\" data-type=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-country\/deer-tick-bluesboy-video-mayonnaise-tour-786252\/\">DIY house-show days<\/a>. \u201cWe were kinda wacky,\u201d he says of that time. \u201cPeople thought they were coming to see a folk band, and it\u2019d be me and Dennis. I\u2019d have three amps, and Dennis would be playing nothing but 64th notes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBack in the late 2000s and early 2010s, the group developed a reputation as a hard-partying bar band working in the overlapping worlds of the indie-folk, folk-rock, and garage-rock scenes that were all flourishing at the time. Though he says he\u2019s embarrassed by many of his earliest songs, Deer Tick originals like \u201cAshamed\u201d and \u201cBaltimore Blues\u201d established McCauley as an insightful, deceptively melodic songwriter, while albums like 2011\u2019s <em>Divine Providence<\/em> established the band as perhaps the only collective in its scene that could sing Lead Belly one song, thrash to Nirvana the next, then chug beers to a song called \u201cLet\u2019s All Go to the Bar.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tDeer Tick soon found themselves opening for the Replacements, headlining huge clubs, and becoming regulars on <em>Letterman<\/em>. The money seemed pretty good, at least for a mid-sized indie band in those final prestreaming years. For McCauley, those years represent a period in his life where he was, to use his words, \u201cout to lunch.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cIt was very easy in our twenties and thirties to play shows, get fucked up and buy drugs, and just pay people to leave you alone,\u201d he says. \u201cThat\u2019s dangerous. You end up with large bills. We\u2019re still kind of in shock with how much money we\u2019ve pissed away and the opportunities we\u2019ve squandered.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI ask McCauley what years exactly he\u2019s talking about, assuming he\u2019d explain his absentee antics were largely reserved for the band\u2019s earliest days.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cI\u2019d say probably every moment from January 1st, 2010, to probably, I don\u2019t know, mid-2018,\u201d he says, before veering into an element of his personal life that he\u2019s never before discussed on the record. \u201cThat\u2019s when I went to rehab. No one knows that, and it\u2019s embarrassing to me, too, because my daughter was born in 2015. I felt like that happening would just really straighten things out in my mind, but it didn\u2019t. And that\u2019s how it works.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cI didn\u2019t go for alcohol, obviously,\u201d he continues, glancing down at the black-and-tan he\u2019s been drinking during the interview. \u201cI went for drugs. And kind of suicidal ideation. I was in a bad place. But I came out, and I stayed sober for a few months before I tried having a beer again. At the time I went in, I was drinking a bottle of brown liquor a day and shitting my pants\u2026. I was really out there for a while.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tNone of the other bandmates directly discuss McCauley\u2019s journey with substance use, but it\u2019s clear his well-being is part of the context when they talk about being in a much better place together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cIt\u2019s probably pretty typical of musicians going from their early twenties to the late thirties, but at some point you are forced to make a decision which direction you are going to go in,\u201d says O\u2019Neil. \u201cI think all four of us, but most clearly, John, we\u2019ve just made a decision to be healthier people and to make healthier decisions for the band.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tMcCauley\u2019s stint in rehab was far from the only obstacles that Deer Tick have faced over the past decade. All of them agree the hardest period in their history came with the tour following 2023\u2019s <em>Emotional Contracts<\/em>. They experienced what many bands did at the time: a resistance from cash-strapped concertgoers who had gotten used to staying home during the pandemic and also felt fatigued by the rush of post-lockdown touring by all their favorite bands. In other words, the crowds got smaller, and Deer Tick were forced to take a hard look at what\u2019s next.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cWe lost a lot of momentum,\u201d says Chris Ryan. \u201cThe music industry was a different place. America was a different place. We all grieved, dealt, handled that in our own ways.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe period forced the group to pare down its expenses. The members took on a more active role in the unsexy affairs of running the small business of Deer Tick Inc., and started having weekly in-person meetings in Providence (sometimes at Patrick\u2019s Pub) to discuss anything from who their touring keyboardist should be to what their next record should sound like. They also experimented with using Slack as a means to communicate with one another about professional matters, fully stripping away the romance of being in a rock &amp; roll band in 2026. (Dennis Ryan says Slack frees up the band\u2019s group text chat for what it exclusively should be used for: jokes and memes.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn an era where it\u2019s never been harder to make a long-term adult living as an independent musician, no matter your level of perceived success (even Jeff Tweedy has a Substack, Chris Ryan points out), Deer Tick no longer take their existence for granted.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cOnce you get to be 38 years old and still playing rock music 100 days of the year across the country or the world, you notice how lucky you are, much more than when you\u2019re young,\u201d O\u2019Neil says. \u201cAnd you want to take care of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules trending-in-article lrv-u-margin-tb-2 lrv-u-border-a-2 u-box-shadow-5-5 lrv-u-padding-lr-1 a-span1 u-padding-b-1@tablet u-overflow-hidden\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-u-text-align-center u-border-color-black a-font-theme-primary-xxs lrv-u-color-black lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-0063 lrv-u-padding-t-050 u-padding-b-0375@tablet lrv-u-padding-b-050@mobile-max lrv-u-border-b-2\">\n<p>\t\tTrending Stories<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBefore John McCauley catches his train back to Providence, he wants to share one more reflection from the band\u2019s birthday show.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cI felt the totality of it,\u201d he says of that night. \u201cWhen you\u2019re a working musician, there are times when I\u2019m like, \u2018How the fuck am I going to pay this tax bill?\u2019 Sometimes you wonder, \u2018Is this worth it?\u2019 I\u2019m not rich and famous, I\u2019m doing fine, but I could be doing better if I wasn\u2019t doing music. But in that moment, I was like, \u2018You know what, I <em>did<\/em> make the right decision.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.rollingstone.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In August 2024, the band Deer Tick were out for an old-fashioned Italian dinner when the band\u2019s founder, John McCauley, began pitching his bandmates on his grand idea for their next album. 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