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JON CARAMANICA <\/strong>One of the things that struck me so much when I was spent time with you guys in the early Odd Future era was how much of it was not musical, it was social \u2014 a bunch of people who genuinely enjoyed hanging out and being rowdy together. And then out of that comes a certain energy, and then comes the music.<\/p>\nSYD <\/strong>Well, me and Matt were the ones who didn\u2019t really enjoy [expletive] [expletive] up.<\/p>\nCARAMANICA<\/strong> How did you come to understand yourself musically given that you were the ones trying to preserve a little bit of peace?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n
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MATT MARTIANS <\/strong>Good catch. I\u2019ll say this: You guys know artists \u2014 the music you put out a lot of times isn\u2019t necessarily the music you actually ride in your car with or chill with your girl with. A lot of the Odd Future guys have made songs like Internet songs.<\/p>\nI\u2019ve found that it\u2019s good to just understand things instead of agreeing with them. We understood why they were [expletive] [expletive] up. Just like they understood why we wanted to chill. And I think it can survive like that. But it was always that middle ground of like, we all like this type of music. We all like chord changes and weird stuff. So, it\u2019s not as weird as you may think.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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JOE COSCARELLI <\/strong>Steve, you were coming up in L.A. as a young musician at the time. What was it like first watching from the outside and then being welcomed in?<\/p>\nSTEVE LACY<\/strong> It was funny because I was super Christian when O.F. came out, so I was like, \u201cThis is devil-worshiping music. I\u2019m not trying to go to hell.\u201d Then I went to the studio and we started worshiping Satan together and then I started my music career. No, I\u2019m just kidding. It was super dreamy.<\/p>\nCOSCARELLI <\/strong>Syd, you were bearing a lot of the brunt of the conversations around the misogyny and the homophobia apparent in early Odd Future lyrics, marketing and extracurriculars. Was that hard on you, personally? And were you leaning on your bandmates in the quieter wing of the collective to get through that?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n
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SYD<\/strong> <\/em>Yeah, I was, because this is right before we even started the band, really. I definitely leaned on [Martians]. It was a little bit tough. I didn\u2019t mind it that much at the time. Looking back though, it was like, yeah, dang, I did have to answer all those questions. But to be honest, I was probably the best one to do that.<\/p>\nMARTIANS<\/strong> For me, I just knew what she needed and a lot of times it\u2019s similar to Steve \u2014 like artists just need somebody they can call, that one person that\u2019s outside of it. That\u2019s all they need sometimes. So I try to do that in a lot of artists\u2019 lives. I tried to be the outside man and one that you can call that\u2019s like, hey man, go get some pizza, cut your phone off for a day, don\u2019t worry about what nobody\u2019s talking about.<\/p>\nSYD <\/strong>He talks me off the ledge.<\/p>\nMARTIANS<\/strong> I\u2019m just trying to give a macro perspective on everything. You know, being an artist is a branch on the trunk, it\u2019s not the trunk. So I always try to remind everybody of that. Because I used to think it was the trunk, and it will ruin your life.<\/p>\nCARAMANICA <\/strong>You guys are close to a new Internet album. Talk to us a little bit about that, and how do you think about that album, especially vis-\u00e0-vis your individual work?<\/p>\nMARTIANS <\/strong>We\u2019ve been working on it, on and off, for four or five years. We\u2019ve just been in and out of the studio and it just built to this moment. We didn\u2019t plan for it to be almost finished around this [solo album] situation.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n
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We want to do things that aren\u2019t money plays with the Internet. That\u2019s part of the reason why we did our solo thing, so when we come to the Internet, we can do things we think are cool.<\/p>\n
Think about if you were in a band, and it was just a band, we didn\u2019t have solo records. Having that release valve for a band is a very important thing, because it allows you to be able to get your ideas out and not feel shuttered. That\u2019s the symbiosis of how they both work together and don\u2019t ever clash into each other.<\/p>\n
CARAMANICA <\/strong>Is there a tell for you guys where you\u2019re like, \u201cI feel like this is a Steve solo thing,\u201d or \u201cit\u2019s absolutely an Internet song?\u201d How do you know?<\/p>\nSYD <\/strong>When we\u2019re making something together and we feel excited about it, that\u2019s usually a good sign. And then we\u2019ve also submitted things from our own collections for the album. We have Steve beats on the album, there\u2019s a Syd beat on the album. And then Matt\u2019s been sampling other beats of ours. We\u2019ve made every group album with a different process. The process on this one is different than the process on \u201cHive Mind\u201d and different than the one on \u201cEgo Death.\u201d<\/p>\nMARTIANS<\/strong> I will say it\u2019s similar to \u201cEgo Death,\u201d more than any album. We always have a pattern: We make a very sort of \u201cwe don\u2019t care\u201d album, then we make an album like, \u201call right, let\u2019s sustain this.\u201d<\/p>\nCOSCARELLI<\/strong> Steve, there\u2019s a song on your new album called \u201cShow You Me\u201d that almost sounds like Oasis, but it has you singing pretty openly about bisexuality. When did you get more comfortable putting that kind of thing on record?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n
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LACY <\/strong>It\u2019s not even a thought, really, it\u2019s just how I live. I think I\u2019m just very fluid, so I just write freely. This album is a lot of jokes, you know? I think sex and sexuality is kind of funny. I laughed so much throughout this album.<\/p>\nCARAMANICA<\/strong> <\/em>Do you find, at this stage of your career, accessing that humor is both easier and more necessary?<\/p>\nLACY<\/strong> I don\u2019t think I thought about it that way. I was taking the approach of trying to write how I talk \u2014 this flow of conversation where it\u2019s not all just one emotion, fluid, packing all types of emotions in: anger, sadness, comedy.<\/p>\nCARAMANICA<\/strong> I wonder how what happened in 2022 and 2023, when \u201cBad Habit\u201d became such a huge viral hit, shaped your thinking about how a song should sound. What did you take from that experience, in terms of song construction, that is on this album that maybe wasn\u2019t on the prior one?<\/p>\nLACY <\/strong>Performance. I thought about what\u2019s funnest for me when I\u2019m playing live shows. And I\u2019m like, oh, OK, the ones that I can sing together with everyone. I find those songs are the ones I thoroughly sat there and really dove into the words. I think where I ended up at the end of \u201cGemini Rights\u201d \u2014 I\u2019m on bigger stages, headline vibe \u2014 and I\u2019m like, I don\u2019t feel prepared for where I ended up. So this next album is just kind of me trying to be as prepared as I could.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n
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COSCARELLI<\/strong> Syd, you had your own big breakout moment between albums, behind the scenes. The Beyonc\u00e9 song \u201cPlastic Off the Sofa\u201d started as a demo from 2017 with you and the singer Sabrina Claudio. What did you learn about the way the music industry works and specifically the way Beyonc\u00e9 works as an executive producer to see that song end up on \u201cRenaissance?\u201d<\/p>\nSYD <\/strong>Another surprise. I sent several songs and, matter of fact, before the pandemic hit, I was in a writing camp for the Beyonc\u00e9 album for like a whole month-and-a-half and wrote handfuls of songs that went nowhere. Then, after the pandemic, I just tapped back in with one of her team members, and was like, yo, where y\u2019all at with the project? She was like, we\u2019re still at square one. So I sent some stuff.<\/p>\nEven to hear the whole album, I was surprised. The whole album was really modern and that\u2019s why I was so surprised to hear it on there.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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COSCARELLI<\/strong> How different does it sound as a Beyonc\u00e9 song than what it sounded like as a Syd song?<\/p>\nSYD <\/strong>The drums are different. And Beyonc\u00e9 went crazy on the vocals. All the runs she did were not on the demo. I remember getting invited to her mixing engineer\u2019s house to hear her recording of it and being like, oh my god \u2026 she had \u2014 did she have fun? Like, it sounds like she had fun. I love that for her \u2014 and me.<\/p>\nCARAMANICA <\/strong>It\u2019s interesting, each of you have talked about having moments where something happened that was almost outside of yourself. But then it\u2019s almost like a rubber band snapping back to its original shape. Is that because the foundation that you have from being so young when you first came together is so firm?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n
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SYD <\/strong>I think it\u2019s our friendship, and our friendships have evolved over the years, too.<\/p>\nMARTIANS <\/strong>We\u2019ve gone through stuff with each other just like any band. But I say the thing that keeps us all together is the family aspect, and we\u2019re genuinely proud of each other. And if we all do well, it makes the band look better. So when the solo albums happen, we have to all get behind those, as well. We are really family-oriented behind the scenes. And I think, of course, you fight your brother. And the next night y\u2019all at dinner laughing.<\/p>\nWe don\u2019t really have any drama. We want to treat being a musician like a blue-collar job in a way, where we clock in and we do the best that we can. But then after that we go home to our families and we do the best we can there.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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