{"id":1256463,"date":"2025-03-30T20:21:41","date_gmt":"2025-03-30T20:21:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/?p=1256463"},"modified":"2025-03-30T20:21:41","modified_gmt":"2025-03-30T20:21:41","slug":"i-would-never-be-able-to-sing-a-song-that-a-robot-wrote-lucy-dacus-on-her-new-albums-themes-of-artistry-and-intimacy-pop-and-rock","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/i-would-never-be-able-to-sing-a-song-that-a-robot-wrote-lucy-dacus-on-her-new-albums-themes-of-artistry-and-intimacy-pop-and-rock\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018I would never be able to sing a song that a robot wrote\u2019: Lucy Dacus on her new album\u2019s themes of artistry and intimacy | Pop and rock"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\"><span class=\"dcr-15rw6c2\">I<\/span>n the shadow of a Hogarth painting, accompanied by guitar and violin, <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.lucydac.us\/#\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Lucy Dacus<\/a> is singing about disappointment. The painting depicts Thomas Coram, founder of the Foundling Hospital in London\u2019s Bloomsbury district. A shipbuilder by trade, he is portrayed in full baroque garb, a style usually reserved for the aristocracy. But amid the classical architecture and rich fabrics, he is shown as he was: the thread veins on his face, his feet not quite touching the ground. The setting is apt for Dacus\u2019s disquisitions on life and love, and the ways they can exceed, or fall short of, the expectations we place upon them: the moments that feel exalted, idealised, as well as the times when reality intrudes on the fantasy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">The <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/foundlingmuseum.org.uk\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Foundling Museum<\/a>, the setting of tonight\u2019s intimate show, also holds a deeper meaning for the singer-songwriter, who was raised in Mechanicsville, Virginia by adoptive parents; the mother who raised her was herself adopted from an orphanage at a young age. \u201cI had nothing like this growing up,\u201d says Dacus to the assembled crowd. \u201cWe don\u2019t have the concept of a foundling in the US. It would have been cool if the other kids at school had known that was fine.\u201d The previous day, after her photoshoot in the museum\u2019s grand-looking court room, she is visibly moved upon learning about the building\u2019s history, and its current work training care-experienced young people. She asks the organisers about inviting some of the trainees to the concert: it would, she says, be a way of showing them \u201chey, I\u2019m doing cool shit \u2013 you can do cool shit.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">The cool shit in question is the kind of life most teenagers dream of. Signed to Matador in 2016, aged 21, Dacus has been crafting sumptuous, emotionally astute music straddling folk and indie rock since the release of her debut, <em>No Burden<\/em>. Two critically acclaimed albums followed, producing singles such as immaculate breakup anthem <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=K7gEgIEUj3A\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Night Shift<\/a> and the yearning, Springsteen-esque <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vGaVVOyiVag\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Hot &amp; Heavy<\/a>. A through-line of her discography is the arresting interplay between her agile, velvety voice and often unsettling lyrics: on the quietly devastating Thumbs, inspired by the time she accompanied a friend to meet her estranged, abusive father, Dacus imagines placing her thumbs on the man\u2019s eyes, \u201cpressing in until they burst\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">In 2018, she joined forces with Californian Phoebe Bridgers and Tennessee-born Julien Baker, two songwriters who share her enthusiasm for 90s alternative music, ethereal harmonies and dry internet humour, to form supergroup <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/music\/2023\/mar\/24\/indie-supergroup-boygenius-phoebe-bridgers-lucy-dacus-julien-baker-stuff-of-life\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Boygenius<\/a>. After a self-titled EP, their chart-topping 2023 debut <em><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/music\/2023\/apr\/02\/boygenius-the-record-review-julien-baker-phoebe-bridgers-lucy-dacus\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">The Record<\/a><\/em> was nominated for seven Grammys, winning three of them; the group made history as the first all-female band to win best rock song and best rock performance. The group also won a Brit, and the band\u2019s first UK gig, a sold-out <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/music\/2023\/aug\/26\/boygenius-review-gunnersbury-park-london-phoebe-bridgers-lucy-dacus-julien-baker#:~:text=Gunnersbury%20Park%2C%20London&amp;text=The%20three%20principals%20have%20gigged,band%20have%20ever%20played%20anywhere.\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">25,000-capacity show<\/a> at London\u2019s Gunnersbury Park, has also been their biggest to date. They replicated Nirvana\u2019s historic 1994 cover shoot for a <em><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/boygenius-julien-baker-phoebe-bridgers-lucy-dacus-the-record-interview-1234660514\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Rolling Stone<\/a><\/em><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/boygenius-julien-baker-phoebe-bridgers-lucy-dacus-the-record-interview-1234660514\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\"> interview<\/a>, in which the magazine called them \u201cthe world\u2019s most exciting indie band\u201d. They are currently on hiatus. \u201cThe goal is not a repeat of that experience,\u201d says Dacus, sipping green tea in a room downstairs, under a different Hogarth painting. \u201cThe reception to <em>The Record<\/em> outpaced what any of us expected. Then the time since then \u2013 thank God we\u2019ve stopped. It\u2019s nice to chill a little bit.\u201d A later question about the band is met with: \u201cLet\u2019s skip it. Because it\u2019s not about them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">Dacus\u2019s focus today is firmly on her accomplished new solo album, <em>Forever Is a Feeling<\/em>, an intensely personal record that should crystallise her reputation as an important artist in her own right. In the run-up to its release, Dacus has deliberately scaled things down, playing a selection of tiny gigs in boutique, atmospheric venues: the neo-gothic Vondelkerk in Amsterdam; a candle-lit show at the \u00c9glise Saint-Eustache in Paris, where she dedicated a song to her girlfriend (\u201cI wonder if that has never been done in this building,\u201d she <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/boygeniusource\/reel\/DHCUWv9ySn7\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">mused<\/a>, eliciting cheers). For the first time, she has had the money and resources to invest in an elaborate aesthetic for the album, which centres largely around classical art. The cover is a Renaissance-style oil painting of Dacus by artist Will St John; in the video for lead single <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pcW_-uxy6dQ\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Ankles<\/a>, she is a portrait who has come to life and escaped from her frame, wandering around Paris in a custom-made Rodarte gown.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">The portrait imagery reminded many of C\u00e9line Sciamma\u2019s film about forbidden love, <em>Portrait of a Lady o<\/em><em>n Fire<\/em>, but it may also be a reference to a key part of Boygenius lore: the time that Baker found Dacus reading Henry James\u2019s<em> The Portrait of a Lady<\/em> backstage at a show they played together in 2016. Fans have fervently speculated about Dacus and Baker\u2019s relationship, which, while not exactly kept secret, has until now never been confirmed or denied. Several lyrics on <em>Forever Is a Feeling<\/em> corroborate what many had long suspected: \u201cYou knew when you caught me reading at your show\u201d, goes Big Deal; elsewhere, the \u201cmost wanted man in West Tennessee\u201d nods to Baker\u2019s hometown of Memphis.<\/p>\n<aside data-spacefinder-role=\"supporting\" class=\"dcr-1eyan6r\">\n<blockquote class=\"dcr-zzndwp\">\n<p>I was feeling all aspects of falling in love and out of love and moving and missing people and finally admitting the truth<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">We meet on the day the news goes public, in the narrow window between the publication of a <em><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/magazine\/2025\/03\/24\/the-subversive-love-songs-of-lucy-dacus\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">New Yorker<\/a><\/em><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/magazine\/2025\/03\/24\/the-subversive-love-songs-of-lucy-dacus\" data-link-name=\"in body link\"> profile<\/a>, in which Dacus confirmed she and Baker are \u201cin a committed relationship\u201d, and the story being picked up by gossip sites and social media. Before long, memes had been spawned, as well as a portmanteau (\u201cJucy\u201d). Was it a difficult decision to write about her personal life on the album, knowing how invested many people would feel? \u201cIt wasn\u2019t a choice to write the songs \u2013 that\u2019s just what I have to give, though I guess it\u2019s a choice to share them,\u201d she says. \u201cThere\u2019s this vague uneasiness to opening up that much. I can never tell why it feels scary, because ultimately, I feel secure in my relationships \u2026 I don\u2019t love being perceived.\u201d She looks down, slightly shrinking in on herself. \u201cI hope the record speaks for itself, and that people will find it. That will matter more than anything I can say.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">Fans excited by the announcement might be alarmed by some of the lyrics. There is good sex in hotels and wrists in zip ties, but also minor betrayals and possibly bigger ones; faces are contorted in anger before tender gestures are exchanged. Both parties make mistakes: \u201cI\u2019m not sorry, not certain, not perfect, not good,\u201d sings Dacus on Lost Time. The excellent, spiky single <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dhKTYG5cpc0\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Talk<\/a> is about a relationship that may or may not be in its death throes: \u201cWe run out of conversation \/ Day runs out of light\u201d. Written and recorded between 2022 and 2024, the songs show relationships at various stages, encompassing the rush of first love as well as the meaner, darker moments not usually aired in public. \u201cI was just feeling all aspects of falling in love and falling out of love and moving and missing people and revelling and finally admitting the truth. It\u2019s all very big things.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">The central thesis of the album is that, even if a relationship does not last forever, the feelings experienced in the moment are of immense value. \u201cI love your body \/ I love your mind \/ They will change \/ So will mine,\u201d Dacus sings on Best Guess, acknowledging that the future is unknown; throughout, the lyrics reconfigure the conventional wisdom of \u201ctill death do us part\u201d into something more modern and realistic, based on choice rather than obligation. \u201cLife is non-consensual,\u201d she says. \u201cYou get brought into this world. You did not ask to be. You learn whatever language you\u2019re hearing, you usually take on the religion you\u2019re raised in. That\u2019s part of why I think love is so powerful later in life, because you basically get to bind by choice with people; you share enough experience that there\u2019s a bedrock that makes it enjoyable or rich. Love with a partner \u2013 that\u2019s like saying, we are family now, and I choose these obligations to you, and I happily take on whatever that requires of me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">This concept also extends to her family arrangements. Growing up, her schoolmates\u2019 reference points for adoption were tales of tragic orphans, like<em> Oliver Twist <\/em>or <em>Annie<\/em>, but she never saw it that way. \u201cI felt very special, because the emphasis was not on the fact somebody didn\u2019t want me, it was that somebody was honest that they couldn\u2019t take care of me.\u201d After meeting her birth parents aged 19, she is now good friends with her birth mother; they recently went to a Heart concert in LA together. She is close to her adoptive parents, a pianist and music teacher and a graphic designer. \u201cYou can build a family by choice and not just blood. Societally, maybe people look down on it, but I am my parents\u2019 child \u2013 the parents who raised me. We are family, and there\u2019s no second best or diminutive follow-up to that. It\u2019s just a good thing. I wish more people considered it an option for their lives.\u201d<\/p>\n<hr class=\"dcr-z9ge1j\" \/>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\"><span class=\"dcr-15rw6c2\">I<\/span>n person, Dacus emanates a sense of calm that belies the analytical self-excoriation in her songs. Emotions and relationships are discussed with reverence, but a sharp sense of humour often lurks beneath the surface (when I ask what body part she\u2019ll write a song about next, after Thumbs and Ankles, she deadpans: \u201cHead\u201d). The care that has gone into every aspect of the album is apparent in the way she talks about it. There is a new intricacy to the arrangements, greater introspection in the lyrics; from the cover art to the cinematic music videos, there is an increased emphasis on artistry and detail. \u201cI\u2019m a bit burnt out on all the digital art that is happening,\u201d she says. \u201cI wanted to work with people who have high skill levels and craftsmanship. It\u2019s connected me back to why people make art in the first place.\u201d<\/p>\n<aside data-spacefinder-role=\"supporting\" class=\"dcr-1eyan6r\">\n<blockquote class=\"dcr-zzndwp\">\n<p>I wanted to work with people who have high skill levels and craftsmanship. It\u2019s connected me back to why people make art<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">She is frustrated by mounting pressure to incorporate AI elements into creative processes. \u201cI don\u2019t care, basically, whether AI would or wouldn\u2019t create good art,\u201d she says with an exasperated eye-roll. \u201cThe environmental impact alone should be enough to have people stop. And also \u2013 you want a shortcut to art? You want to have made a product, you don\u2019t want the internal process. That\u2019s the entire reason for me. I would never be able to sing a song that a robot wrote. It breaks my heart that some people would forgo the chance to actually get to know what they have to say.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">On the album, she sings about feeling alienated by the music industry: \u201cI was in a boardroom \/ Full of old men guessing what the kids are getting into\u2026 I don\u2019t belong here, nobody does\u201d (Come Out). She recalls being in rooms with people who have no interest in her music, but view her as a potential paycheque: \u201cSometimes people are upfront about their want to make money off of you. Some people try to disguise it.\u201d Putting out music now, compared with when she started, \u201cis a lot less fun. And I love fun \u2013 I take fun seriously. Life should be bringing you joy.\u201d The heightened cynicism and negativity on the internet can sometimes take its toll. Although her fans are generally \u201creally sweet\u201d, the increased visibility brought by Boygenius has made her a bit more guarded. \u201cOther people do expect performance from you. It doesn\u2019t feel good sometimes if you\u2019re having a personal moment, and people basically make it a professional moment by wanting to film you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">Last year, her friend Chappell Roan <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.billboard.com\/music\/music-news\/chappell-roan-addresses-fans-predatory-behavior-post-1235760448\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">spoke out<\/a> about fans\u2019 intrusive behaviour. Has it made a difference? \u201cOne hundred per cent. We were in New York one time, and that was the least I\u2019ve ever been talked to in New York \u2013 it was with her. So I think people are really listening.\u201d Dacus believes we should start to think about fandom in a new way. \u201cI have abstract care for the fans, and I genuinely feel that they care about me, even though we don\u2019t know each other at all. That doesn\u2019t even mean we know how to have a conversation when we\u2019re together, but still, there\u2019s something sweet there. Most people have good intentions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">Many of Dacus\u2019s values, she says, stem from her upbringing in the church. \u201cThere was a huge emphasis on service: painting fences, babysitting, making food for people. There\u2019s a lot about growing up in the church that made it hard to get to know myself, but that was a really good part of it.\u201d These days, though she no longer considers herself religious, she still has \u201ca lot of reverence and curiosity\u201d. One lesson Christianity taught her is the importance of not giving in to hatred, something that can feel increasingly difficult. \u201cI do think it\u2019s important to try for love. Maybe a useful distinction is hate versus anger. I\u2019m extremely angry and frustrated and disgusted, with lots of people in power and bigots in general. But hate to me feels like it\u2019d be more of the same if I just hated them back.\u201d (When I ask about the 1975 singer Matty Healy, whom she had a <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.co.uk\/music\/news\/the-1975s-matty-healy-leaves-twitter-as-lucy-dacus-hits-back-at-ableist-post-32947\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">public falling out with<\/a> after he tweeted an offensive joke about her band\u2019s name, she says simply, \u201cWe\u2019re not in touch.\u201d)<\/p>\n<aside data-spacefinder-role=\"supporting\" class=\"dcr-1eyan6r\">\n<blockquote class=\"dcr-zzndwp\">\n<p>I have friends whose passports are being \u2018corrected\u2019, and people whose IDs are being held so they can\u2019t get out of the country<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">One of the topics Dacus has been vocal about is the situation in Gaza: Boygenius wore <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vogue.co.uk\/article\/boygenius-grammys-2024\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Artists4Ceasefire badges<\/a> to the 2024 Grammys and have attended pro-Palestine <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/boygenuis\/comments\/17ecphm\/lucy_and_julien_at_a_free_palestine_rally_in_la\/?rdt=34221\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">rallies<\/a>, which has led to some backlash. \u201cSure, but it doesn\u2019t matter. There are some opportunities that I\u2019ve lost, but the idea that I would take them anyway\u2026 I don\u2019t want them. You have to look back on your life one day and try to be proud of yourself.\u201d Two days after Trump\u2019s inauguration, she announced she would be <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.teenvogue.com\/story\/lucy-dacus-is-donating-to-trans-peoples-surgery-costs\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">giving away<\/a> $10,000 for trans people\u2019s surgery costs. \u201cI currently have friends whose passports are being \u2018corrected\u2019, and people whose IDs are being held so they can\u2019t get out of the country. I fear for the physical safety of the trans people in my life, particularly non-white trans people \u2013 I fear for immigrants getting deported. It\u2019s just so heartless. What are you trying to defend? What is this country you speak of?\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"747d1889-e613-4199-8eb7-f605a7af7a49\" data-spacefinder-role=\"inline\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.VideoYoutubeBlockElement\" class=\"dcr-173mewl\" \/>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">At the start of May, Dacus will turn 30 \u2013 a decade she\u2019s looking forward to, whatever it holds. If her 20-year-old self could see her life now, she says, she\u2019d be \u201creally weirded out. If I was given the choice, I would have to really think about it.\u201d If she could give herself a piece of advice at that age, it would be: \u201cDon\u2019t be so loyal that you bring assholes along for the ride. Get real about people who don\u2019t treat you well enough.\u201d Her main ambition for the future is to keep doing things she is proud of, not necessarily in music but \u201cother fields and art forms, including farming and cooking\u201d. She hopes to spend more time in LA, where she moved in 2023, despite the \u201capocalyptic\u201d fires earlier this year. \u201cI want to plant a seed and then see it become something. I want my life to be still enough and reliable enough that I can do that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-s3ycb2\">Later this summer, she\u2019ll be playing Glastonbury, another experience to add to her \u201ccool shit\u201d portfolio. \u201cThat, I guess, is a bucket-list thing. I hear it\u2019s kind of a dirty experience: a muddy, weird time. I\u2019m sure I\u2019ll be dripping sweat and it\u2019ll be a riot.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em> \u2018 The preceding article may include information circulated by third parties \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 Some details of this article were extracted from the following source www.theguardian.com \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 O artigo anterior foi obtido e traduzido do site internacional da celebrity.land   \u2019 Source Link <\/em><\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the shadow of a Hogarth painting, accompanied by guitar and violin, Lucy Dacus is singing about disappointment. The painting depicts Thomas Coram, founder of the Foundling Hospital in London\u2019s Bloomsbury district. A shipbuilder by trade, he is portrayed in full baroque garb, a style usually reserved for the aristocracy. 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