{"id":1445204,"date":"2025-10-20T01:23:28","date_gmt":"2025-10-20T01:23:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/?p=1445204"},"modified":"2025-10-20T01:23:28","modified_gmt":"2025-10-20T01:23:28","slug":"game-over-agi-nao-e-iminente-e-os-llms-nao-sao-o-caminho-certo-para-chegar-la","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/game-over-agi-nao-e-iminente-e-os-llms-nao-sao-o-caminho-certo-para-chegar-la\/","title":{"rendered":"Game Over. AGI n\u00e3o \u00e9 iminente e os LLMs n\u00e3o s\u00e3o o caminho certo para chegar l\u00e1."},"content":{"rendered":"<figure><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p>Primeiro lentamente, e depois de uma s\u00f3 vez, os sonhos de LLMs que nos levavam \u00e0 beira da AGI desmoronaram. Os \u00faltimos meses foram devastadores:<\/p>\n<p><span>\u2022 <\/span><strong>Junho de 2025<\/strong><span>: <\/span><strong><span>o documento de racioc\u00ednio da Apple <\/span><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/open.substack.com\/pub\/garymarcus\/p\/a-knockout-blow-for-llms?r=8tdk6&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false\" rel=\"\">confirmou que mesmo com \u201cracioc\u00ednio\u201d, os LLMs ainda n\u00e3o conseguem resolver a mudan\u00e7a de distribui\u00e7\u00e3o<\/a><\/strong><span>o principal calcanhar de Aquiles nas redes neurais sobre as quais venho escrevendo h\u00e1 quase 30 anos. V\u00e1rios outros artigos, incluindo o ASU \u201c<\/span><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2508.01191\" rel=\"\">Miragem<\/a><span>\u201cO artigo rapidamente ampliou essa descoberta.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!MjBm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308ecb15-04f7-43c2-b928-64c3e7c08710_1225x1830.jpeg\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>\u2022 <\/span><strong>Agosto de 2025:<\/strong><span>  GPT-5 chegou atrasado e <\/span><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/open.substack.com\/pub\/garymarcus\/p\/gpt-5-overdue-overhyped-and-underwhelming?r=8tdk6&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false\" rel=\"\">ficou aqu\u00e9m<\/a><span>. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>\u2022 <\/span><strong>Setembro de 2025<\/strong><span>: O vencedor do Pr\u00eamio Turing, Rich Sutton, mais conhecido por RL e sua \u201cli\u00e7\u00e3o amarga\u201d, me agradeceu por minhas cr\u00edticas aos LLMs e concordou. S\u00edsmico. (E surpreendentemente gracioso!)<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!02t6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ae30f59-930f-4d23-9848-fa771611ac69_1319x360.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!02t6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ae30f59-930f-4d23-9848-fa771611ac69_1319x360.png\" width=\"1319\" height=\"360\" 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\/><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>\u2022 <\/span><strong>Outubro de 2025:<\/strong><span>  Andrej Karpathy, um especialista em aprendizado de m\u00e1quina amplamente respeitado que j\u00e1 administrou IA para Tesla e duas vezes trabalhou para OpenAI, apenas disse que os agentes n\u00e3o est\u00e3o nem perto e que a AGI est\u00e1 a uma d\u00e9cada de dist\u00e2ncia.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!y-bV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2195af5-f47d-4cca-a811-f96e792c4b3a_1376x1389.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><img decoding=\"async\" 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\/><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!KWcq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0566e0d2-1c7a-47b5-842f-a05dc69bc2f8_1413x1399.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!KWcq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0566e0d2-1c7a-47b5-842f-a05dc69bc2f8_1413x1399.png\" width=\"1413\" height=\"1399\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/0566e0d2-1c7a-47b5-842f-a05dc69bc2f8_1413x1399.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1399,&quot;width&quot;:1413,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1038228,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/176484932?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4dc67cc2-f51d-43c4-bf63-b8660ffb6d06_1430x1430.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!KWcq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0566e0d2-1c7a-47b5-842f-a05dc69bc2f8_1413x1399.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!KWcq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0566e0d2-1c7a-47b5-842f-a05dc69bc2f8_1413x1399.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!KWcq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0566e0d2-1c7a-47b5-842f-a05dc69bc2f8_1413x1399.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!KWcq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0566e0d2-1c7a-47b5-842f-a05dc69bc2f8_1413x1399.png 1456w\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\" \/><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>\u2022 <\/span><strong>Outubro de 2025<\/strong><span>: O ganhador do Nobel e o Google DeepMind Sir Demis Hassabis acabaram de explodir algumas afirma\u00e7\u00f5es extremamente exageradas de Sebastien Bubeck da OpenAI sobre matem\u00e1tica. O pesquisador\/CTO do Hyperbolic Labs, Yuchen Jin, explica:<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ZO-4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62f04542-2585-4417-bd7e-84d2efb8d25b_1388x2069.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ZO-4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62f04542-2585-4417-bd7e-84d2efb8d25b_1388x2069.png\" width=\"1388\" height=\"2069\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/62f04542-2585-4417-bd7e-84d2efb8d25b_1388x2069.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:2069,&quot;width&quot;:1388,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:902607,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/176484932?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62f04542-2585-4417-bd7e-84d2efb8d25b_1388x2069.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ZO-4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62f04542-2585-4417-bd7e-84d2efb8d25b_1388x2069.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ZO-4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62f04542-2585-4417-bd7e-84d2efb8d25b_1388x2069.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ZO-4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62f04542-2585-4417-bd7e-84d2efb8d25b_1388x2069.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!ZO-4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62f04542-2585-4417-bd7e-84d2efb8d25b_1388x2069.png 1456w\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\" \/><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>Realmente embara\u00e7oso.<\/p>\n<p>Os LLMs t\u00eam o seu lugar, mas quem espera que o paradigma atual esteja pr\u00f3ximo do AGI est\u00e1 delirando.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Gary Marcos<\/strong><span>  Tentei dizer a voc\u00ea durante anos que esse momento chegaria h\u00e1 anos. Considere ler seu artigo de 2020 <\/span><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2002.06177\" rel=\"\">Pr\u00f3xima d\u00e9cada em IA<\/a><span>para uma estrat\u00e9gia alternativa que parece cada vez mais presciente. <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>E, por favor, considere juntar-se a quase 85.000 outras pessoas assinando o boletim informativo que lhe contou tantas coisas que se provaram verdadeiras, muito antes de estar na moda.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>  &#8216;O artigo anterior pode incluir informa\u00e7\u00f5es divulgadas por terceiros&#8217; <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>  &#8216;Alguns detalhes deste artigo foram extra\u00eddos da seguinte fonte garymarcus.substack.com&#8217; <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> \u2018 O artigo anterior foi obtido e traduzido do site internacional da celebrity.land \u2019 <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Primeiro lentamente, e depois de uma s\u00f3 vez, os sonhos de LLMs que nos levavam \u00e0 beira da AGI desmoronaram. Os \u00faltimos meses foram devastadores: \u2022 Junho de 2025: o documento de racioc\u00ednio da Apple confirmou que mesmo com \u201cracioc\u00ednio\u201d, os LLMs ainda n\u00e3o conseguem resolver a mudan\u00e7a de distribui\u00e7\u00e3oo principal calcanhar de Aquiles nas [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1445205,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jnews-multi-image_gallery":[],"jnews_single_post":[],"jnews_primary_category":[],"jnews_override_counter":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1445204","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-realeza"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1445204","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1445204"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1445204\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1445205"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1445204"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1445204"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/celebrity.land\/pt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1445204"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}