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In the MCU, abandoned ideas can be as revealing as what makes the screen. On October 29, 2025, Michael Waldron—credited on Loki and now on Avengers: Doomsday—used a Reddit Ama to describe an absurd, self-owning Kang moment that he and Jeff Loveness once pitched for the shelved Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. The setup: a rousing Young Avengers victory over a Kang variant; the punchline: a literal “first day” card that instantly deflates the win. Waldron put it plainly: “Jeff Loveness and I spent an afternoon pitching on the Young Avengers defeating a version of Kang,” only for the team to discover “a little card that said to Be Patient with him,…

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