‘Avengers 5’ Writer Michael Waldron Explains the Scrapped MCU ‘Young Avengers vs. Kang’ Gag

In the MCU, abandoned ideas can be as revealing as what makes the screen. On October 29, 2025, Michael Waldron—credited on Loki and now on Avengers: Doomsday—used a Reddit Ama to describe an absurd, self-owning Kang moment that he and Jeff Loveness once pitched for the shelved Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. The setup: a rousing Young Avengers victory over a Kang variant; the punchline: a literal “first day” card that instantly deflates the win. Waldron put it plainly: “Jeff Loveness and I spent an afternoon pitching on the Young Avengers defeating a version of Kang,” only for the team to discover “a little card that said to Be Patient with him,…