Getting Real About Race, Gossip & Tension in Christian Spaces

Derek Winkley, musician, writer and music producer, joins Rita Springer for a powerful conversation about music, ministry, and the unspoken tensions in the Christian industry. From his early years playing drums in the Black church to producing worship music across cultural lines, Derek shares his heart on creativity, race, ego, and why he’s determined to end well.

If you’re an artist, worshipper, or believer seeking depth, this one’s for you. Some things need to be said, even if they make us uncomfortable.

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0:00 – Coming up
1:11 – Today’s Guest, Derek Winkley: Where It All Started
14:03 – Music: Knowing and Learing
18:15 – Ad: Amazing Life Foundation:
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19:04 – Black and White: The Tension In The Music Industry
29:06 – Guarded: Finding Joy And Trusted Spaces
36:08 – Ad: Amazing Kids –
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37:14 – Creativity: Pulling Out What God Has Put In
44:52 – Called and Convicted: Walking It Out With God
49:16 – Letting Seasons Go, Shocked And Cancelled Christians
57:05 – Ad: Donate to Wearing Justice
58:23 – Creating, Writing And Persisting
1:04:45 – What Would God Say? 
1:06:39 – Family Dynamics, Inherited Ways
1:12:07 – Ad: Join Rita’s Tribe – 
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1:13:10 – The Church: The Wins and Losses
1:15:57 – Advice To Young Talented Believers
1:19:07 – Derek’s Big Dream

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