Watch Gracie Abrams Talks New Music and Her Acting Debut | The Run-Through

This is The Run-Through.

I’m Marley Marius, Senior Editor at Vogue.

And I’m Sam Sussman, Global Director of Social Media.

And today, we have a truly thrilling guest.

Incredible things happening in the studio.

We have our summer cover star, one Gracie Abrams here,

ladies and gentlemen. Woo!

Oh my god. Thanks

for having me, guys.

What a treat

to be here. Wow, thank you so much

for being here.

I mean, Sam, you were on set

for Gracie’s cover shoot last week in LA.

Can you guys tell me, set the scene,

what was it like, what were the vibes?

I’d love to and I’ll need Gracie’s help,

but it was, in my opinion, best vibes.

There was a heat wave, so we were all in it together.

We had the best team.

We had Larissa Hoffman, who I love,

Jorden Bickham, who I love. Love.

We had our female team coming through.

Emmy and Tomás- Yes, I mean, the best.

I mean, Tomás, tell me how you felt about it,

’cause I had a blast. I mean, to be in LA

was also quite nuts, having grown up there.

I think because of how intimate the crew felt,

it was always a trippy moment to pull back

and realize what it was we were shooting and where,

and also like that environment was so remarkable

and really just the people make everything all the time.

But what a nuts kind of bucket list.

[Marley] And the setting was George Lucas’s amazing new,

like narrative, I don’t know what it’s called.

It’s the Lucas Museum

of Narrative Art. Narrative Art, yeah.

Okay, gorgeous. I was kept calling it

the Museum of Storytelling-

I’m sure you would agree if that’s also what it is.

Yeah, I mean, what was amazing though was I feel like

I’ve never been in such a big space in my life, like-

I thought we had left- It’s like cavern.

it’s like we left Earth. It does feel, you’re like,

oh hello Mars.

I’m just so excited for LA to have a museum like that.

The design is incredible.

I think 300,000 square feet.

I mean, it’s unimaginable you enter.

I’ve never been in a museum before it’s open before.

You’re running through the museum

safely. We got tacos that day.

Got mariscos, have you ever had mariscos at East Coast?

Oh, well, we’re

flying to LA next time in LA.

Okay, we’re doing it.

Good- Got a big tray

of shrimp tacos.

We wouldn’t have made it through the shoot without it.

No. It was a real dream.

That is so fun.

I mean, we’re, for the audience,

we are recording this a few months before the stories out,

so we’re, you know, with bated breath

waiting to see the story,

but we’re very excited about it.

Did you listen to any music on set?

Yeah, we had Gaga.

The fame, always.

Always, and I think we like, we switched it up,

we put some Tame Impala too and then at the end,

like last shot, I was like, we’re going back to Gaga.

Yeah, Sandy was like, we’re all like a little bit fading

into the day by the end of the…

Because also it was like heat advisory,

like heat warning in LA, they were like,

you know, don’t go outside, we were in the row in 95 degree.

Anyway, but then it was just so funny

there was some like ambient music

and all of a sudden it’s like…

♪ Just dance ♪

I was like Yes, thank you Sammy.

We got to hear a snippet of the new album

which was very exciting. Thank you for listening.

I mean, when do you kind of decide

like how you want to sort of talk about

what an album sort of is

and how it kind of like fits into like,

the sort of trajectory of your sort of works.

I do feel like when you’re like doing press around

like a project, you kind of have to be like,

this is, you know,

reflective of this kind of moment in my life.

To me, I feel very present with whatever it is I’m writing

and that like, you know, there wasn’t a single event

that inspired a concept album in this case.

I feel like I was surprised that as much music came

as quickly after the last tour ended,

you know, I wasn’t anticipating that.

I didn’t feel like I had anything to say.

And I think my nervous system was really

like settling into what life off-tour feels like.

It had been four years of a straight push.

Oh my God. Yeah and like,

I think when you’re in it,

I’m sure you guys feel this way with what you do

which requires like 24/7 attention

in a way that I cannot even imagine.

But there’s like you don’t realize what,

how your nervous system is kind of like running

until you’d stop, which like, never happens.

And then, but when it does, you’re like, Whoa!

I feel like being absolutely silent.

So, I had no plans in this case to like jump in

as quickly as we ended up doing it.

But my collaborator, producer, dear friend Aaron Dessner,

who I’ve worked with for six years now, he has superpowers.

And kind of whenever we’re in the same room,

even if I do feel like silent to my core,

whenever he starts playing something,

it like sparks my imagination.

And therefore, when we got together

to kind of just throw something at the wall,

so much came out

and it felt like a really quite accurate reflection of,

I guess, just being in my mid-20s.

And, you know, I think like being in your 20s

is famously that sort of in between space

where like one foot is in your adolescence still

and another is sort of in the future a bit.

And this album when I think about,

because you two are like some of the first people

I’m talking about it, you know, with at all,

just like so I’m kind of still figuring out

the vocabulary I guess around it.

I’m looking at this album as like I am the sum

of all my parts and these are the parts

that I was this year, I guess.

What I was talking to Marley,

when Marley asked how I was feeling about the album,

I think that in between,

I think that’s an amazing way to talk about it

because I think that’s why so many,

that’s why I relate to it.

You get that feeling perfectly

of something can look one way, it can turn out one way,

but how you’re feeling inside and feeling like,

you wish something would have worked out

because it would have been easier.

But unfortunately, you couldn’t.

And so, but then you make it fun and I know you do-

Maybe sometimes, maybe once or twice it’s fun.

No, you like, you find a very smart clever way

to talk about it, we’re like,

it didn’t actually go that way and I was in a lot of pain,

but actually it’s gonna be okay,

like you- But, Ha-ha.

Exactly. No, I do think,

I think like there’s there’s theme,

there’s lots of different themes I think there’s like,

you know, like the falling in love and heartache and like,

you know, regret and I think like age now

that comes with just enough reflection to be like, Hmm.

You know, just looking in the mirror a bit.

I know you work with Aaron a lot,

but is there anyone once you’re working with him

who you’re sending for feedback?

Is there anyone else you look to,

even though you’re not working with,

but just to be like, Oh, I know your POV.

For sure.

I feel like, well, historically,

when Audrey Hobart and I lived together,

when we were making The Secret of Us together,

like she was my first, you know,

it’s like run downstairs and be like,

Do we like this idea?

So that was such a gift to have my dearest friend

and my roommate be the person whose, you know,

opinion and taste I trust and respect the most.

Like that was amazing.

And similarly now, Paul’s like constantly,

I’m just like, Thoughts?

Thoughts on this one?

You know what I mean? So that’s a joy for sure.

I think, you know, other than Aaron,

I’ll send a demo to my mom.

Like, do we hate it, you know?

But otherwise, I’ve never really been like,

I’ve never been like a cast a wide net.

You’re really good about bringing people

that you love into your world to work with.

And so, when these people you’re talking about,

you know the feedback,

you’re going to care about their feedback.

So I love that.

It’s people you’ll… I feel like feedback

is so crucial, but I do think in this time,

it’s like, for all of us because of the internet,

like it’s unavoidable.

We’re living in a time where,

you know, nothing goes uncommented on.

Which like is also like our First Amendment right.

So I’m like, let’s go.

However, I do think it’s important that like, you know,

as regardless of the scale it’s on

in terms of like perception, et cetera.

It’s like, I do think it’s important

to internalize feedback and really respect

and honor feedback you’re getting from people

who are invested truly in your personal growth

and like evolution and not for the sake

of like burying you in a hole and wanting you to like suffer

on a daily basis.

You know what I’m saying?

No, indeed. I agree.

Do you know what I mean? I’m like, so I love feedback.

I’m like, bring it.

I’m the same, but I just go to safe circle.

Where I’m like, I can handle the feedback.

Exactly, exactly.

Totally, yeah.

I mean, you are someone who has historically

sort of teased, like you put out sort of snippets,

of music that you’re working on

and sort of shared that with the community

that you’ve built online, which is so devoted to you.

I mean, the nice ones are so devoted in such a sweet way,

you know, as you were saying.

When you have done that, was kind of the feedback

that you were getting sort of directional?

Was this idea to just kind of be like,

I am in the studio, I’m working on things,

like things are happening.

Like, what were you kind of seeking in those moments

when you were sort of teasing things?

I think when I started posting snippets years

and years and years ago,

was like just another outlet for me.

And I think because I didn’t really think about the internet

as like another place that you are performing.

To me, it was just, you know,

I didn’t have to face anyone actually.

Like it initially was just somewhere for me

to kind of vlog these things.

And then as people somehow stumbled across my songs

and would, you know, yeah, comment

and let me know that they had been through something similar

or that it resonated with them for whatever reason.

I then felt like it was this beautiful relationship

where not like using my following as a sounding board

as much as kind of like feeling

like they were a community of people that were receiving it

and making me in turn feel less alone

in the days I was writing about.

So I think it’s always nice, you know,

to see what hits harder, I suppose.

And there have definitely been instances like in years past

where that’s influenced the amount of attention I put

towards a song.

Because I think I was so impulsive with uploading things.

Like I would be in the middle of writing a song

and like have just recorded the first half of a verse

and still not have gotten to the second yet

and be like, Post, you know? Wow, yeah.

I feel less impulsive with the internet today.

But at the same time, I love that feeling.

I know, I mean, the bridge from I Told You Things.

Fans, maybe me, maybe,

I called it the crashout song of the year.

Oh, geez. Emotionally devastating.

Great, yeah.

Great. Do you agree with that take?

I love that song. What’s the story?

Tell me the story. I loved writing that song.

I love that song now more than ever after touring it

and kind of getting the catharsis of really,

it feels so conversational,

like kind of aggro, which I love.

I love it too. I think it’s funny

just in terms of audience influence on something,

the way that their spirit rewires my memories associated

with music is pretty great.

Especially because it’s also like,

it’s entertaining to see people like headbang

to a song that I certainly wasn’t headbanging to

when I was writing it.

You know what I mean? I was like basically right here

being like…

And now they’re like fully…

So funny. And so I love them for that

when I think of that song,

instead of thinking about what I was writing about,

I think about like specific shows

where I remember them going particularly hard for it.

So you’ve seen all the viral TikToks?

I haven’t.

I don’t have TikTok or anything.

Good. I have Instagram

on my phone sometimes.

Another reason I’m grateful for shows

is like that’s what I receive.

Yeah. Exactly. The internet for me

makes me feel unwell. Fair enough.

Very fair. I think you’ve said,

and I’ve heard other artists say this,

which is so interesting to me,

that like the moment that you put something out there

and certainly once you begin performing it

like it’s not really about what it was to you anymore.

It sort of becomes a completely different experience

of the material, which seems so interesting

just to kind of see a piece of work

kind of develop a life of its own like through your fans.

Yeah, because it just doesn’t belong to you anymore

once you put it out.

And it’s inspiring, I think, to be in a room

with a bunch of people that are like,

we’re all kind of growing up together.

It feels like a massive support group or something,

like where everyone is relating to each other

on some level, regardless of like,

the fact that they’re strangers technically.

It just feels, you know, it’s that kind of like

catharsis that everyone talks about when it comes to music.

Everyone feels. And no one’s a stranger

at your show.

I don’t know how to tell you, like I’ve gotten to watch it

and the way that everyone freaks out,

everyone’s screaming lyrics together,

everyone always makes friends, let me tell you.

They’re dancing in circles around each other.

They’re so sweet.

It’s so sweet to watch.

But talking about your shows,

because I know you’ve said the idea of performing

has made you nervous before, which I always,

I couldn’t believe because when you go on stage,

I do feel you transform

and you’re so focused in those songs.

Like you really, I feel like you almost go back to

when you were writing them,

like that emotion really flows through you.

And I was curious if anything’s helped you

become more confident in performing.

You’ve done sold out arena tours, you’ve,

you know, whether opening for people,

starring in your own tours.

How have you found that confidence

and how have you been able to be less nervous?

Well, I think like before

I hadn’t ever played a show prior to COVID.

So after quarantine lifted,

played my first show was like less than 100 people

in California and like south of LA.

And it was the night before I was like up, vomited.

Like didn’t sleep, I was so anxious.

And like that was like at a time where anxiety generally

was just at like just, always at a nine.

Of course. Awesome, yeah.

Love that. Always at a nine.

And so then this was something that always freaked me out.

Hardcore, the idea of it.

And anyway, and then the show started

and I remember in real-time being like, I was so wrong.

I was so wrong, and I loved being wrong.

And I felt like that was just a larger lesson,

you know, how many stories we tell ourselves

and how lucky it is when those actually

are not true all the time.

And I think in terms of, not that I’ve never felt

like nervous before a show since then,

but the like core rattling fear never came back

in that capacity.

Even when we were playing like the biggest rooms,

it’s like a different thing, I think,

to answer your question, the confidence piece

is really being wrong and being like gifted with this,

actually like experience that’s based in community,

not in isolation.

It’s like the opposite of what I thought it would be.

And then also the people that I get to tour with

are like family, you know, and like the most down,

hysterical, brilliant people I’ve ever met,

you know, like all of us living on a bus together,

it’s like hard to not laugh instead of cry

at anything that’s a little stressful or weird.

You know, when things go wrong,

it’s like those are the people I want to be with,

which is such a gift because shit goes sideways on tour

like practically on a daily basis, you know?

So many variables.

I can’t imagine the logistic nightmare

that is like being on tour.

When something goes wrong, it’s kind of the most fun.

That’s interesting. No, I believe that.

I mean, when the sound went out, it was crazy.

In Madrid we were playing this festival

and the whole stage lost all power.

Every light, every cape, nothing made any sound

and we stayed.

Just had my acoustic guitar and everyone sang together

and you’re like, Oh, they probably,

I hope they won’t forget it, I’ll never forget it.

You know what I mean? I heard the story,

so no one will ever forget that.

It’s so special.

I know you keep it fun on tour.

You’re talking about all the people who surround you

and I know you guys played Traders even,

which I’m in admiration of even setting that up.

But just to have those fun moments-

I blew it in the final hour.

I was so close to winning.

You were a traitor.

Yes. Wow.

And I lost. [laughs]

And I lost.

It was devastating.

It was like people were like going so hard.

People were swearing on like family members.

Like it was serious.

People were, it was heavy.

I mean, I did sort of wonder with like Audrey now

on a tour of her own, like are you guys like talking shop?

Is she seeking advice?

Have you tried to dispense advice

that she actually didn’t need?

Because she’s like,

I’m good. I couldn’t,

I saw her show in London a couple weeks ago.

She doesn’t need advice from me.

Yeah, she’s good. It’s like electric.

It’s electric and I think regardless of what it is

the people you love are doing,

like when you see them in their power,

it gives me chills now.

Like I have known her since we were so little.

We met when we were 10 and the person she is on stage

on this tour right now is the person that she was

when we were 10 years old.

And so, there’s something just about seeing a room of people

like go absolutely nuts for it that I’m like, finally.

It’s like that thing where you’re like,

oh, I wish everyone grew up with the best friend

that I had and now people are getting to.

That’s so cute. Like this just, you know,

I feel like she’s so brilliant and so kind of accessible

that people who haven’t lived

through the shit she’s writing about yet, who are younger,

are still able to feel like angsty about it.

And people who have lived it times 10 are like,

Thank you for saying it like this.

And so this kind of multi-gen, you know, audience

who are all like losing it over her,

I’m just like, yeah, I know exactly how all of you feel.

I felt it first.

Yes, I got there first.

Thank you guys for joining me.

You’re finally online showing off.

No, it’s the best thing in the world.

Honestly, since we got this snippet,

I had to unpack my entire life this weekend

and all I did was listen to your preview of your music

on repeat as I unpacked.

It was raining, I walked in the rain, I listened.

That sounds right. And your new single,

Hit the Wall shivers. Good stuff.

Good stuff.

Great stuff.

Is there any story behind that that you can share?

Yes.

Well, we made that here in New York at Electric Lady.

That song was very obviously,

the first single to me as soon as I wrote it.

I was a little bit late to the studio,

which I’m very prompt.

And I was kind of having an emotionally confused morning.

There was something, do you know when you sometimes wake up

and you feel like as if you’re being haunted by a spirit,

or like a relative who’s no longer,

like, do you ever feel like the energy

as if someone’s got their hands on your shoulders?

When I can’t fall asleep, that’s when I wake up.

There’s actually a really great psychiatrist

I’d love to point you to.

Now I’m like, you are an artist and I love that.

No, no, do you know what I mean?

I’m like, do you ever feel like when it’s like,

it feels like you’re wearing like a little cape

around your shoulders. Is it a good way

or a bad way? No, in like, sometimes

it’s great. This was, and I think any time,

I’m like I don’t want to prescribe anything good or bad.

I do think, this one was just kind of heavy.

I kind of just felt like weighed down

when I was walking to the studio and I started tearing up

and it was kind of at this period

where I wasn’t crying very much

and I was like something’s blocking me,

like what is going on?

And started feeling teary and got to the studio

and there was that, the loop that plays at the beginning

of that song was playing in the room

and I was anticipating walking into a different thing

that we were working on the night before,

I very quickly felt like the sound

was exactly matched to that hands on shoulders cape feeling.

Yeah, incredible.

And so then it just- The spirit joined you.

Imagine, they’re like, Gracie’s out of her mind now.

And anyway, so it just really like poured out

and I love that song.

Like producing it was the best time.

Aaron and Bella Blasco, who’s our engineer,

who’s an absolute genius.

And then like a week later, Justin Vernon came in.

His voice is in there in like a beautiful way

that I felt again, like I feel like he has some ancient

and futuristic gift that is just beyond.

It’s both.

I’m like, where’d you come from?

And what are you drinking?

Can I have it?

So anyway, that song it means a lot to me and I love it.

And it was a nice place to kind of put all of these,

not like self-deprecating thoughts,

but just all of the dark cloud energy into one place

and then when I was done with it,

it made me feel like a teenager again

where I would like write something and then feel healed.

I mean, what a gift. Lucky day.

I did sort of wonder if like as time has gone on

like your songwriting process has changed

or kind of where you find inspiration

or how it strikes you even has kind of evolved?

Or does it feel sort of consistent

with when you were kind of starting?

I guess it feels consistent in that I just feel

like it’s like a snapshot of a,

like even just a passing feeling.

Like it always feels reflective of where I’m at.

And I think when I look back at the music that I’ve written,

so much of it has been based and feeling

like in these kind of insecure, you know, anxious places,

whether within yourself, or in relationship to someone else.

I will say, like with this album, I think being at a place

where I feel like I’m able to,

what’s like a less corny way to say like protect your peace?

But do you know what I mean?

I feel like as you just grow up,

your filter for what feels good or bad,

or like you or unlike you,

you accumulate kind of better tools

to better align with yourself and like,

yeah, kind of protect yourself, et cetera.

And so I feel like as I’ve been lucky enough

to get to a place that I think is more solid

than my younger years,

I was worried like what will I write about?

Totally.

That like kind of like- No need to worry.

If that’s gone

then what do I do? Yeah, no truly

and I think what I’m learning

in real-time is it’s like a real privilege

to feel more settled internally

because it just means you’re looking outward more

and kind of able to write about

a whole host of other things.

Totally. So, yeah.

I mean, it’s such a different thing,

but I feel like I’ve had sort of a similar thing

where I was like, I so associate writing with anxiety.

I so associate it with like a deep dread

and sense of fear that the thing isn’t going to happen.

But then, like, as time goes on and you become,

that kind of goes away a little bit

and you still have your tools

because obviously you’ve been developing your tools

the whole time.

Like, that’s quite a powerful thing to be like,

Oh, actually, I don’t need the absolute

like wrenching fear to do this thing.

Like I’ve been doing this thing all along.

Right, do you write on a daily basis?

I end up writing on a daily basis.

That’s true.

And you know what? It’s true,

because I feel like some of the things I do

I don’t like take seriously, but it is writing.

Like, it is using the tools.

It really is,

and she’s amazing. Yeah, and it’s all additive,

me, this is therapy, anyway-

Wait, wait, wait, can I ask one follow-up?

Please. Okay, when you say

you’re writing, is it for like personal

or are you saying for work? It’s for work.

But I do…

Well, actually, I’m sort of curious about this for you

because I, and this is- Flipping it back.

I know. Look at you.

Look at that. I talk to myself

kind of a lot.

And I find that quite productive actually

in terms of like helping me to articulate things

that I am working out,

and it’s helpful to do out loud for me.

Are you like this at all?

Absolutely. Okay, yeah.

Like, I find it embarrassing,

but I’m also kind of like, it’s doing something now.

I think there’s nothing more endearing in the whole world

than hearing someone talk to themselves.

And I say that because it’s not writing,

but it is like working out a thought

in a way that writing is.

Yes, 100%. I think it’s also probably, yeah,

probably just goes hand in hand with your process

if you find yourself doing it a lot.

My older brother was like this so much.

Like, you know, when you see a little kid

with such an active imagination,

like when they’re in their own world,

they’re looking at a tree…

Do you know what I mean? Where you’re like,

There’s a world happening? Totally.

I feel like those people grow up talking

to themselves. Totally.

And those are storytellers. Yes, storytelling.

Linking back to storytelling. And you’re doing accents-

Oh my God. In the dirt.

This is so evocative. Do you know what I mean?

It is. It’s like my favorite thing.

It’s so cute. And then we grow up

and society’s like, That’s weird, don’t do that.

But if you can still access those worlds

you build for yourself, you do have this safe space.

That’s a powerful thing. And I don’t, again,

don’t mean in a crazy way,

but just to have these little

places to go- Oh, sure.

Yes, total. To be creative.

Okay, I mean, I do want to take a hard pivot

to your experience of going,

was this your first time going to the Oscars?

Yes.

Oh my God. What was that like?

It was so emotional anytime, anyone won,

I mean, it was beautiful

to see unbelievable artists celebrated.

I feel any space that does that is one that I like.

These days, I’m crying so quick as soon as someone

like mentions their family or, you know what I mean?

Someone’s up there and it’s like, And my mom…

I’m like, hysterical.

It’s a really big thing. Yeah, truly.

Total trip, those environments,

but so lovely to watch people who deserve to win win.

Yeah, I mean, I was telling Marley, I was lucky enough.

I think I caught you,

right as you were coming off the carpet.

You always look like you’re having so much fun now.

You look gorgeous.

I have to shout out both of you, you and Paul.

I know Felicity helps Paul and I know I have to shout out

our dear friend Spencer who really went all out

with that look. I know.

Because when the wind picked up, the neck scarf,

I don’t know what the official term for that is,

but that was gorgeous.

I mean, it was stunning.

Are you having so much fun

coming up with looks with him now?

I mean, what’s that process like?

He’s my hero.

I love him so much, and I feel like at this point,

we’ve got such a shorthand.

And I think, you know, again, it comes with just, like,

getting to know yourself better with time.

With Spencer, understanding the manifestation of,

like, growing up and evolving and how style can reflect

the work you’re making, et cetera,

like, it’s been such a privilege to work with him.

And I love his instincts so much

and I think that he strikes the perfect balance

between classic and also fun, innovative edge.

Totally. I love him.

Yeah, classic but youthful is not always easy to strike.

Exactly, that dress, I mean, custom.

So you guys got to work on it together,

obviously with Chanel.

But just thinking about a black tie,

one of the fanciest events of all time,

but make it feel really modern and classic.

are you sending screenshots of like,

this is the mood I’m feeling?

Oh yeah, we always make boards for things.

And Chanel have been so generous in like, you know,

accepting those references and kind of like, yeah,

the moods I suppose.

There’s that amazing black two-piece set

Gwyneth Paltrow wore, the embroidery on it is like stunning

and the beading is so gorgeous.

And that was kind of the idea-

Very safe to use Gwyneth as your-

So hard to go wrong.

Anyway, so that was kind of for this look.

But yeah, just wanted to like feel

like I could be in my skin and, you know,

totally be there with support.

You attended with Paul, of course.

You’ve been together a while,

but only recently started doing carpets

and sort of public appearances together.

And I did kind of wonder

how you make the decision to do that.

It was definitely not like a conversation of like,

Hey, you know, at all.

It’s just like lovely to support the people you love,

you know what I mean?

And I think I find every room that he’s in easier.

And nights like that and environments like that

can be so overstimulating and intense.

And it’s just nice to be like,

I’m just gonna squeeze your hand now.

You know what I mean? For sure.

So really, yeah,

definitely not even a heavily considered kind of just felt.

I love date night.

I love that you’re a date, you’re a date.

You gotta get a drink. Exactly.

Literally. Make it spicy.

Let’s do an award show. Yeah, I’m like,

I’m on Oscar’s tonight.

[all laughing]

I wanted to watch it home in my pajamas,

but sure, I’ll put on this gorgeous dress.

Exactly.

I mean, gorgeous dresses aside,

we wanted to know about your off-duty style.

I feel like, simpler than ever,

as I’ve been cutting my hair off and off and off,

I’m just loving low maintenance.

All of the screenshots in my phone of like fashion

that I love is like, Chloé Sevigny and like Winona

and Gwyneth and 90s and then I’m kind of like, okay.

Blueprint, need to know.

Okay. Just so, you know,

I’m always browsing. Sure.

What are your favorite things to shop?

What’s on your wishlist?

Oh goodness.

I feel like I’m, well, do you mean fashion?

‘Cause immediately I go like,

I’m loving this kitchen where I play-

Oh, with the same rules.

This is what we’re interested in.

There’s just, I think as I’ve been off tour

and have a kitchen again,

because the George Foreman grill

was like our primary tool on the road.

We were like panini press, let’s go.

And now that I have a stove and an oven,

I’m like getting ahead of myself.

But all these different size, like, you know,

sometimes you want to just cook for one.

And you’re getting all these little…

So anyway, I’m loving these…

Oh, hello. I’m loving kind of kitchenware

and knives at the moment are making me excited.

You know what, that’s fun. That’s what I want to get,

but I haven’t, so wishlist.

And then, just must shout out, Matthieu.

The God. Yeah, literally.

I mean, I’ve never seen like such a craze.

Just the amount of texts I have dedicated to like,

which shoe, which bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I’m like, probably from me.

You’re like, the amount of fucking texts I’m getting

from these craze, yeah.

[Sam] You have some fab bags

that are on maybe my wishlist.

I’m like, I wonder how long I’ll get to,

I’m always like, will they take it back?

I’m like, clutching it, like do you guys want this back?

I’m just like, you have to put all your belongings in it-

You know what I like?

What I love about his bags at the moment

as a tote person is that even the ones

that don’t look that big can fit everything.

[Sam] We did a What’s in the Bag,

I think she had over 50 items in a bag.

I remember those. It’s just so tragic.

Award winning stuff-

It was such a gross wake up call.

I remember she even said that day,

’cause I think at the beginning of the day,

you were like, Do you wanna make sure

you’ve got nothing too personal in there or whatever?

And I was like, No.

I was like, I’m about to being real.

And it’s like disgusting.

I’m like, it’s just, anyway.

So apologies to anyone who also felt that was gross.

We loved it. The whole thing, I was like,

I gotta, they don’t…

Well, I gotta go.

[all laughing]

I should not be around these like real adults anymore.

Memories from multiple Vogue cover sets.

Yeah, yikes. Nothing’s that embarrassing

when we’re gracing the cover of multiple Vogue’s.

So true.

I mean, that was a recent memory.

We want to dive back to your first

fashion memory. Fashion memory.

First fashion memory, actually,

the two that just popped into my head

are so related in a way that

I’ve not thought about till now, which is,

I was probably like three years old.

Okay. I remember visiting

my grandparents and I think my grandmother must have

got me these shoes, but they were like Mary Jane’s,

like red patent leather. I can picture them.

And I loved them.

I remember like feeling power for the first time.

Like I remember putting these shoes on

and like I remember stomping around and just like,

why don’t all shoes make you feel like this, was my thought.

And the second memory that just came to mind

was Halloween being Dorothy from-

Adorable. The Wizard of Oz,

also red shoes.

There’s a theme here. Absolutely.

We need to dive into this.

So I don’t know, maybe what’s that mean

about like a pop, a little accent?

A pop of red. A pop of red.

I don’t want to be this person,

but TikTok says red nails bring you power.

So maybe it’s red shoes.

Look at you. I didn’t look-

[panelists cross talk]

Like literally never in my power actually.

Yeah, yeah, and by the way,

not wearing red shoes, shit.

Sam is winning today.

We were thrilled beyond to hear

that you’d be making your acting debut

in Halina Reijn’s next film.

First of all, acting, was that always a bucket list thing?

No. How did this happen?

The script came across my desk

and it lit me on fire and that’s really,

I guess all I can say I’m just so,

it was not definitely not in the cards

and I am thrilled and it will be so humbling

and I just feel so lucky that she’s

at the helm of this thing

because I’ve just admired everything she’s done.

I think she’s so bold and brave and like wild,

and she makes me feel very embodied.

The state of the world right now,

like people that make you feel really integrated,

that’s what I want to lean into, so.

I love that. It’ll be an adventure.

That’s really exciting.

And also just like to tap into a different side

of your creativity maybe.

So if you’re learning something about yourself,

one would think. One would think.

One would think- One would think.

And I’m like- I think there’s going to be

good writing coming out after that experience.

Knocking on wood, I started talking to myself,

like what’s, the hands on my shoulder?

I’m like the little kid down in the dirt.

We can’t wait. Oh my God,

this new era is going to be great.

As I was saying when you’re on stage,

I see you as an actress.

I don’t know why, I just see that for you.

Gosh, thank you.

I’m very excited and I think you’ll be able to exercise

a whole new set of talents.

Everyone pray.

[all laughing]

We’re going to keep you in our prayers for sure,

Marley and I. Thanks, guys.

I think this is a beautiful note to end on.

Thank you so much.

What a joy.

Thank you guys so much.

Thank you so much. This was heaven.

This was the best. Thank you.

Come party with us anytime.

Oh my God, literally. Join us.

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